95 Beyer.

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This evidence being? She has never raced against males on real dirt, yet you are ready to reach back to years past to find male horses that can challenge her on real dirt.

"You would have to reach in time and quality to find a FEW that I would question that she could beat . . ."

I do, and giving him weight.

Summer Bird is being used as some sort of gauge of greatness? I'm still trying to figure out the other "top'' males Rachel beat, I'm assuming the great Macho Again and Bullsbay? Zenyatta would beat those two in a canter, and Summer Bird would hardly be a horse they would fear.

Like she beat those Apple Blossom slugs in a canter? LOL. At least Rachel has a record against males on real dirt. All the Zaniacs have is speculation.

And a sparkiling resume, David.

Midnight Lute's first foal is out of Tough Tiz's Sis. I'd be shocked if she doesn't end up being pretty massive. Watch her look like Megahertz.

Don't you mean the Zenyatta?

How do you know my first name?

You think she struggled? I thought she was going to start bucking and playing around when she hit the front, not bad earning a 95 beyer in
a workout.

She beat those slugs just the way she should have--without exertation or flash .

You are loaded for bear with speculalion--this is 2010--so far Rachel has not beaten males on real dirt, and what finished behind her equally qualifies as slug material , if you like such insults .

The mare that finished in front of her surely would have been a slug if she finished behind Zenyatta on any surface --she gained credibility only because she finished in front of Rachel .

You'd better save those LOLs until the book is complete dear--unless egg on your face is becoming--and it may be ...

Nope. All we have is an undefeated mare who showed up and put up. R.A. is a good filly but she has been beat and Zenyatta hasnt and until someone shows up and beats her R.A. will still be a horse that has lost races and Zenyatta will still be ...well unbeatin.

And wins and losses have nothing to do with level of competition of course. Peppers Pride was undefeated too, it doesn't make her better than certain horses who have lost.

You need not be pedantic and preachy--we all know Man P' War, Secretariat and other supreme race horses got beaten, and that does not make them inferior to Pepper's Pride OR Zenyatta .

You know what Honu was saying--that Rachel has shown she can be beaten, and Zenyatta has competed with the best that ran against her and has not been beaten yet . .

Hmmmmmmmmm....

There was a quote I remembered reading on the Eskendereya thread. It went something like:

"beyers are for clowns. 88"

Who said that?

Again you cannot fault the mare because no one has a horse that can beat her , yet.

You forgot that special nite already, or is it denial?

I just think that Zenyatta's running style against the best on Belmonts one turn mile would be the great race to watch as she rolls down that long stretch and the others with no place to hide, only to run faster than the preditor.

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