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MaTH716 11-20-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
R3

5 - Reba is Tops

Not completely sold on her yet. Only 5 horses in that race, but really no throwouts.

I literally got a headache looking at that pick 4 sequance.

Port Conway Lane 11-20-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
Lindelaan in the 3rd for me.

That's a gutsy selection and I wouldn't want to get you or anyone else off of a pick (not that you would listen to me or anyone else for that matter) that could land you in the 20%-40% remaining after tonight,which could occur if the #2,4 and/or the 5 run out.
This race is likely to be the ball-buster of the contest so far.I estimate 80% of the picks will come from this race with 50% on the #5,15% on the #2,10% on the #4 and 5% or less on the 1 and 3.(I may be woefully wrong about these estimates.)
#1 Lindelaan ships in for Clement and has "wait till they come back to me" Gomez up.
In the last 5 years shipping to socal Clement is
all starters) 22% win 55% itm
turf starters) 20% win 54% itm
turf sprinters) 6% win 35% itm
Positives-finished a decent third in her last start which was a sprint.
Negatives-limited sprint experience,shipping to a course she's never tried and no local works.
#2 Rainbow's Song
Positives-5 for 5 itm sprinting,her only turf start was her last and finished a good 2nd after setting the pace,doesn't have to be on the lead to win or to run well.
Negatives-No experience over the Hollywood turf....She lost an uncontested lead in her last and is facing the same horse who was closing in on her late(Annihilation,who is 2 for 2 over the Hollywood course and 4 for 4 itm in turf sprints.)That race was at 6 1/2 downhill with Mig aboard and although she lost a clear lead she still finished in front of Annihilation going 6 1/2.Rosario has the mount today.(just the fact,not a negative)
#3 Royal Taat
Positives-Closing sprinter who is coming off of a tough route(0 for 3 itm at a route) and is back at a preferred distance,albeit 8 for 14 itm sprinting.2 for 2 itm over the course. Her last three starts sprinting she has faced the favorite,Reba Is Tops and was in a dead heat with her in June over this course,beaten by her at Del Mar going 5 furlongs and finished in front of her downhill before her most recent race at the route.Bejarano/Sadler.
Negatives-Spotty record,8 for 14 itm sprinting,worst in the field.Pace disadvantage in a small field,although she has performed well in this situation before.Will be in a match race with Gomez for last place honors early.
#4 Annihilation
Positives-Always seems to fire sprinting,2 for 2 over the Hollywood course and 4 for 4 itm in turf sprints.3yo filly has the most upside in the field.
Negatives-Just beaten by Rainbow's Song at SA when that one was fading on an uncontested lead,however she wasn't too far off of that pace herself.She not only needs to turn the tables on Rainbow's Song but must outperform two other solid Hollywood course sprinters in Royal Taat and Reba Is Tops.Espinosa is cold as ice so far this meet.
#5 Reba Is Tops
Positives-17 of 19 itm lifetime.6 of 7 itm sprinting on the turf.2 for 2 itm on the course. Never run two consecutive poor races.Dropping into lesser company.
Negatives-Her most recent race she was out of the money for the first time in two years and was outfinished by Royal Taat,though that one benefitted from a fast pace.

Reba Is Tops,Rainbow's Song and Annihilation will be dictating how this race will pan out which to me is the most difficult part.Two lightly raced fillies who are unproven against the quality of a horse like Reba who has been a bridesmaid to Gotta Have Her.If Royal Taat runs her best one of the top three will be out and it could be any of them.Reba is now five years old and in her last she was chasing two horses who are faster than any of these and while the pace was kind to Gotta Have Her and Royal Taat the two pacesetters outfinished Reba.
Reba Is Tops is the obvious choice here. However there are two improving (and perhaps three if the #1 shows up) fillies in this race,two of which have similar running styles as Reba. While both she and Royal Taat each have a Graded stakes placing on their resume I can't help wondering if her humble beginning, $12,000 claimer, rags to riches career has reached a peak.

My choice- Look for another race.

MaTH716 11-20-2009 01:46 PM

For a 5 horse field it's a very interesting race. You did forget to mention that for Lindelaan, it's her 2nd start of the layoff and she returned in a race where she had trouble most of the way.

The 2 & 5 kind of have the same style and most likely both will be near the front. I'm leaning toward including the 5 over the 2 based on her backclass.

As far as the 4 goes, i'm just not sure if she's fast enough for this group.

I'm not sure about the 3, I think the only thing I like about the horse is the connections. Out of stakes company, but I still think I'm tossing.

Port Conway Lane 11-20-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
For a 5 horse field it's a very interesting race. You did forget to mention that for Lindelaan, it's her 2nd start of the layoff and she returned in a race where she had trouble most of the way.

The 2 & 5 kind of have the same style and most likely both will be near the front. I'm leaning toward including the 5 over the 2 based on her backclass.

As far as the 4 goes, i'm just not sure if she's fast enough for this group.

I'm not sure about the 3, I think the only thing I like about the horse is the connections. Out of stakes company, but I still think I'm tossing.

I noticed that in the closer look comments and I also overlooked her sprint experience in Europe.

I agree with the backclass factor on the #5.

If the #4 isn't fast enough for these then the #2 isn't that far ahead of her.

The #1 and #3 appear to be more dependent on the pace and if they crawl up front I wouldn't want to count on any of the front three fading.

gorvy 11-20-2009 05:05 PM

I think most people will play race 1 now that the scratches have been posted.

Port Conway Lane 11-20-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gorvy
I think most people will play race 1 now that the scratches have been posted.

I'm not sure if most will but it splits favoritism between #2 in the first and #5 in the third.Big scratches.I'm leaning toward the three legged # 2 in the first.Huge pace advantage and the #6 just switched trainers from Mitchell to a 0 for 76 trainer making it a four horse contest.

mclem0822 11-20-2009 06:04 PM

Friday Contest Pick......
 
Race 7-#10 Big Bertha

Good Luck All!

jwkniska 11-20-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gorvy
I think most people will play race 1 now that the scratches have been posted.

then I'm glad I'm not in the first race. Hopefully one of the big favorites in it tanks, as it'll take out the majority of the field. (got a top 5 at CD a few yrs ago in one of these, as I avoided a Day horse that got 75+% of the picks).

jwkniska 11-20-2009 10:05 PM

or not....

GL to all still left.

cal828 11-20-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
or not....

GL to all still left.

2nd that GL.

mclem0822 11-21-2009 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822
Race 7-#10 Big Bertha

Good Luck All!

Another 2nd, she ran well just got nipped. Still alive.

onebadbeast 11-21-2009 02:01 AM

gone in the 3rd..........................see u next year:wf

Bigsmc 11-21-2009 03:29 AM

R4

8 Kimmyv

gorvy 11-21-2009 07:00 AM

Race 8, American Lion for now.

PeteMugg 11-21-2009 09:30 AM

I'm out, also. Good luck to the DTers that remain.

mclem0822 11-21-2009 01:27 PM

Sat. Contest Pick.......
 
Race 2- #4 That Ol'blackmagic

Good Luck All!

mclem0822 11-21-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822
Race 2- #4 That Ol'blackmagic

Good Luck All!

Wow! When Vic said That Ol'blackmagic has to go now, I thought I'd be lucky to get 3rd! Then when Rosario got this horse out in the clear he kicked in, and ran down the 8 for the win!

gorvy 11-21-2009 03:53 PM

good pick. Was my 2nd choice, wish I had him now!

Bigsmc 11-21-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
R4

8 Kimmyv


:eek:

That was too close for comfort.

Bigsmc 11-21-2009 04:57 PM

Checking the top picks, looks like we've lost 22% of the remaining folks so far on today's card.

Birdie Birdie 13%
Oceanographer 5%
Alpine Yodel 4%


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