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10 pnt move up 09-21-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
You are missing the point. I know that there is plenty of talk on the backstretch. I was only using Solis and O'Neill's names just to fill in the blanks. What happened in that situation was that is looked like the rider knew the horse was better than a $25k horse but sold the trainer on believing he could get away with it so his friend could buy.

Well, if a rider did that, and it easily got around as you suggest, the rider is an f'ng idiot because his reputation on the backside would be toast.

Cannon Shell 09-21-2009 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
This reminds me of an incident that some of you may know about from some years back in Southern Cal. A jockey that had been working a horse for awhile talked to the trainer and told him that he thought he could enter him into a lower level claiming race than the trainer wanted to and he'd be safe. The horse ended up getting claimed. By another jockey. Who just happened to be the roommate of the jockey that had been working the horse.

Jockeys cant claim horses.

Cannon Shell 09-21-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
This reminds me of an incident that some of you may know about from some years back in Southern Cal. A jockey that had been working a horse for awhile talked to the trainer and told him that he thought he could enter him into a lower level claiming race than the trainer wanted to and he'd be safe. The horse ended up getting claimed. By another jockey. Who just happened to be the roommate of the jockey that had been working the horse.

Not to mention that any trainer that is stupid enough to listen to a jockeys advice on what price to run for deserves to lose the horse.

Cannon Shell 09-21-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
Well, if a rider did that, and it easily got around as you suggest, the rider is an f'ng idiot because his reputation on the backside would be toast.

or he may wind up with some broken limbs

Indian Charlie 09-21-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Not to mention that any trainer that is stupid enough to listen to a jockeys advice on what price to run for deserves to lose the horse.

No kidding man.

Are they as dumb in person as they seem to be whenever you hear them speak on TV, or for that matter, when you see them ride on TV?

v j stauffer 09-21-2009 11:56 PM

Want you guys to know I'm watching, listening and learning. Appreciate all the input both negative and positive. Would love to comment but out of respect to Joel, Mr. Glenny and all involved I will not. The hearing is Oct. 2nd. We're looking forward to presenting our testimony and moving forward. Joel is enjoying his much deserved vacation. Tina and I are celebrating our marriage a week ago Saturday in Marin at Brent Sumja's house. What a blessed man I am that such a wonderful caring woman has chosen to be with me. I'll be back to work either Wednesday or Thursday morning. Probably Friday for Joel. We're both very focused and dedicated to the goal of Joel achieving his third consecutive So. Cal. riding title.

All the best.

Vic Stauffer

docicu3 09-22-2009 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Want you guys to know I'm watching, listening and learning. Appreciate all the input both negative and positive. Would love to comment but out of respect to Joel, Mr. Glenny and all involved I will not. The hearing is Oct. 2nd. We're looking forward to presenting our testimony and moving forward. Joel is enjoying his much deserved vacation. Tina and I are celebrating our marriage a week ago Saturday in Marin at Brent Sumja's house. What a blessed man I am that such a wonderful caring woman has chosen to be with me. I'll be back to work either Wednesday or Thursday morning. Probably Friday for Joel. We're both very focused and dedicated to the goal of Joel achieving his third consecutive So. Cal. riding title.

All the best.

Vic Stauffer

Congrats on your paper anniversary......you seem to have found the peace and comfort we all seek. It's a great thing to wake up each day knowing your married to your best friend......

About the subject of the thread....

When the Oct date passes ,if possible, could you set the record straight about the reports concerning Jay Privman's role in this issue other than the initial piece he wrote for DRF. As you probably have read elsewhere, there is a myriad of complex speculation in cyberspace on other boards that some of this issue has been fueled by a personal attack of some sort and that Joel is being unjustly accused as a means to attack you. If any of that is true, it really is very unfair....

Danzig 09-22-2009 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Want you guys to know I'm watching, listening and learning. Appreciate all the input both negative and positive. Would love to comment but out of respect to Joel, Mr. Glenny and all involved I will not. The hearing is Oct. 2nd. We're looking forward to presenting our testimony and moving forward. Joel is enjoying his much deserved vacation. Tina and I are celebrating our marriage a week ago Saturday in Marin at Brent Sumja's house. What a blessed man I am that such a wonderful caring woman has chosen to be with me. I'll be back to work either Wednesday or Thursday morning. Probably Friday for Joel. We're both very focused and dedicated to the goal of Joel achieving his third consecutive So. Cal. riding title.

All the best.

Vic Stauffer


congrats on your marriage and good luck with the hearing.

Coach Pants 09-22-2009 08:29 AM

Hey Vic congrats on the wedding. On this issue, well...watch out for your cornhole, bud.


VOL JACK 09-22-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
congrats on your marriage and good luck with the hearing.

Congrats on your hearing and good luck with your marriage.

randallscott35 09-22-2009 08:48 AM

:tro:
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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Congrats on your hearing and good luck with your marriage.


10 pnt move up 11-24-2009 10:41 PM

So there were lost of rumblings of a feud between Vic and Privman but I guess this Blog post comments from the two themselves tell the (two) stories. Big names chime in on the situation. I know Rosario had the meeting with the CHRB this week but heard nada on an outcome.

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/ec...#comment-18225

philcski 11-24-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
So there were lost of rumblings of a feud between Vic and Privman but I guess this Blog post comments from the two themselves tell the (two) stories. Big names chime in on the situation. I know Rosario had the meeting with the CHRB this week but heard nada on an outcome.

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/ec...#comment-18225

Byk got a much deserved shout out in that blog...

which brings up another point: yet another reason why the Eclipse awards are irrelevant: voted on by print media in a digital generation.

Scav 11-24-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
So there were lost of rumblings of a feud between Vic and Privman but I guess this Blog post comments from the two themselves tell the (two) stories. Big names chime in on the situation. I know Rosario had the meeting with the CHRB this week but heard nada on an outcome.

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/ec...#comment-18225

Internet brawls, you gotta love them, on blog comments no LESS!!!

Coach Pants 11-24-2009 11:58 PM

I'm making Team Privman and Team Stauffer shirts and putting them on ebay with a reserve of $.50. Might sell 1. Maybe.

chucklestheclown 11-25-2009 12:06 AM

Reminds me of sideshowbob:D

v j stauffer 11-25-2009 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
It would be interesting to see Vic -- or anyone -- post a link to his award winning piece.

There is no link. It was a radio feature. If you'd like a copy PM your address and I'll have Hollywood Park publicity send you one.

docicu3 11-25-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
It would be interesting to see Vic -- or anyone -- post a link to his award winning piece.


What I want to know is how does Byk not have an Eclipse for his own journalistic efforts relevant to the sport. I must be missing something here but some of his efforts about the state of racing in Ky, the show devoted to Bobby Frankel's passing or his efforts to publicize the issue of neglected horses starving in mass last year seem to be more deserving of recognition than anything I have read or seen these past few years...but I digress. Happy Thanksgiving all...

stonegossard 11-25-2009 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
So there were lost of rumblings of a feud between Vic and Privman but I guess this Blog post comments from the two themselves tell the (two) stories. Big names chime in on the situation. I know Rosario had the meeting with the CHRB this week but heard nada on an outcome.

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/ec...#comment-18225

Rounds 1-14 go to Privman. Ouch.


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