Originally Posted by eajinabi

I dont see the point of Zenyatta shipping elswhere when their prize is on the BC at SA. If RA is going to run in the BC Classic then wouldnt it be nice if she gets a synthetic prep. If not she will always have the "never ran on synthetic" excuse if she loses in the BC this year.

Originally Posted by Danzig

she ran/won at kee last year.

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Well there wont be an excuse if she loses then

Originally Posted by Danzig

you ought to know by now that there's ALWAYS an excuse. now...whether it's a good excuse, or a believable one is another story.

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

many people, including some writers are doing just that.

I have learned to live with disappointment in this game, if it happens it happens. None of the boys in california can run with Zenyatta which is the most disappointing to me.

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

The best way to see who is really better......make a last minute decision to move the BC to Churchill this year!!!!

which will never happen but....oh well

Zenyatta is probably better on synth...and RA is probably better on dirt. But RA is going in the Classic if she comes, so we'll never know either for sure

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Zenyatta ran her best race on dirt at Oaklawn

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Shireffs and Moss talked it over already and said no.

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

One could argue Ginger Punch just threw in a clunker that day. Do you think Ginger Punch had her best in that race? I mean Brownie Points beat her....

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Is that what your arguing?

Did she throw in a clunker later in the year as well?

Originally Posted by Danzig

she ran/won at kee last year.

Originally Posted by eajinabi

RA faced the boys and beat them. This years best horse is probably not the male version. Zenyatta is arguably the best older horse Male or female this year and RA is the best 3 yo male or female so far. The handicap male divison looks weaker than the 3 yo so running RA in the BC classic is a step down in my opinion.

Originally Posted by tector

Well, there would be nothing to stop Zenyatta from showing up there as well, would there?

Oh, I forgot--quack quack.

BTW, if I am rolling the dice on a bizarre surface, why WOULDN'T I run for the much bigger purse, just in case my filly can handle it?

The Zenyatta projected campaign is b-o-r-i-n-g. If somebody wants to be boring with their horse, that's their business. Just don't expect me to give a damn.

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Is she running for political office? Sherrifs/Moss doesnt take a public poll to see where Zenyatta should run next.

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, the best compromise would be a meeting in the fall at saratoga. it's not as tho the mosses never ship-it wouldn't be outrageous to expect them to ship a horse this year that they shipped last year, knowing full well that the bc was in fact in the same location as it will be this fall. i think their reasoning rings hollow. what i really think it is, is that they feel due to rachels running style she would most likely have the upper hand in a meeting. they also probably recognize that HOY will be out of their grasp unless they also chose to face the boys as well, so what would be the point in risking a defeat? may as well try to go out undefeated with their mare. she obviously likes it where she is-and they can certainly dare jackson to come west.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Clearly if I want her to run outside of California for once, that means I want her to go to Europe or Japan.

RA knows where to find her: in Zenyatta's backyard, on a surface she's never tried, after a cross-country ship. Sounds like a real level playing field.

Like it or not, Rachel already has more significant accomplishments than Zenyatta. If anything, she has less to prove.