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miraja2 05-15-2009 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
Well, my life took a turn. I'm not gonna share the details, but I went from being employed to unemployed on Tuesday. And here I was under the false pretense that my job was going great:zz:

I've had some success at the windows these past couple of months. I am actually considering a 3 to 4 week try at playing for a profit. A serious 5 day a week job with a plan, a budget. Question is, what should be my bet(s) of choice? I'm thinkin straight win, pick 3's. I'm gonna budget myself to $200 a day max. Am I crazy or would you consider doing the same thing? Have any of you done something similar?

I guess the only things that matter are: 1) Do you have something you can fall back on if you go broke? 2)How confident are you in your skills at handicapping & ticket construction? For example, with my skills at this game, I would be better off becoming a professional lottery player.

2Hot4TV 05-15-2009 06:49 AM

So it looks like you will be going green, because you cant afford a car, car insurance, air conditioning or heating at home, ho yea the home is out ,,,,,,

OR

Holy Mother of Mary I just hit the jack pot! I'M doing the Cha Cha Cha!!!:$:

slotdirt 05-15-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
Losing your job lets you know that you are not "walking around lucky and just dont know it."

I work in areospace manufacturing and the backlog is gone. Its catching up to everybody, be careful.

Not quite sure what you meant here, but I hope you realize my posting of the picture from the Richard Dreyfuss movie was obviously tongue in cheek.

johnny pinwheel 05-15-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane
Hell give it a shot.What have you got to lose,2k? Desperate times call for desperate measures.

PS You are crazy and yes I've done something similar.

If you have to do it go with the 3 and out system.Put $500 in your pocket for food and shelter.

Next take your three best shots with $250 wp wagers. If failing to connect three consecutive times start looking at alternative sources of income. Good Luck!!

i've been there. when i got sick. it took two years for my lawyer to settle with disability and the union. i had to get good and fast. the win ,place angle is good and like conway said take a couple shots a day. to bet all the time and make money, YOU MUST SPOT PLAY. go through the card and find some horses you like that are at least 3 to 1. i look for some that will pay at least 10 bucks on the win. i bet ny alot and they are there every day, logical horses that pay good. if you are sharp and disiplined you can make money. once you get ahead start playing pic 3's, keying the type horses i mentioned. its worked for me and i have not worked a real job in almost 5 years. the problem is most people can't bet all the time without getting overboard, thats why most lose at this. i have friends that bet whatever is 2 minutes till post. i'll sit there for 3 races before i even wager a dime if i'm waiting for my "go to" horse. use your money like a snipers rifle, not a shotgun.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-15-2009 01:36 PM

curt get a job..play when you can..its tough for anyone who can take the losses over a period of time..you will have a cold streak everyone does.and when that happens and your short on cash you will not think clearly then go bust..if you must.find 2 prime plays of the day. if you make money.shut it down. play the next time you have a few prime plays..be happy with any forward movement of your bankroll.dont think im hot.. just be happy with your return.. this is the way you can build a bankroll and not get busted.betting action bets on a bad track..ie mountianer ect will kill you

take the dark days off..study hard watch alot of races /get a w list of horses
on drf. good luck

2Hot4TV 05-15-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Not quite sure what you meant here, but I hope you realize my posting of the picture from the Richard Dreyfuss movie was obviously tongue in cheek.

I'm just foolin around and hope you do well at what ever you do. I wish everyone the best.

steve 05-15-2009 06:26 PM

two words----giant eagle

SCUDSBROTHER 05-15-2009 08:28 PM

Well, my only advice is to use people's fear to your own advantage. People don't generally want to be out of a p4 after the 1st leg. So, they tend to use like 3 horses in the 1st leg(often the most likely 3 horses.)They won't try to lean up there. That will often turn a $20 late pick 3 ticket into a $60 late pick 4 ticket. The other thing they will do is avoid the pick 4, and just bet a late pick 3. This is due to fear of that 1st leg pick 4 loss. So, my advice is to look for pick 4 plays where you like a single in the 1st leg. That's important. There a lot of people who's preferred horse in that late pick 4 yesterday at HWD was the 2nd fav that won the first leg. They didn't trust it(cuz scared of being out after one leg.) So, they put $20 into the late pick 3, and hit for $134. They know they should of had over $600 for that late p4, and they know they could of done it for $20. Right? The most obvious horses won the last 2 races. The winner of the 2nd leg was like the 5th deep horse for most people. If you liked the Talamo horse in the 1st leg, then it's a $20 p4 bet. So, look for p4 bets where the 1st leg has a horse you can single. Then you can go 5x2x2 etc. the rest of the way.

philcski 05-15-2009 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well, my only advice is to use people's fear to your own advantage. People don't generally want to be out of a p4 after the 1st leg. So, they tend to use like 3 horses in the 1st leg(often the most likely 3 horses.)They won't try to lean up there. That will often turn a $20 late pick 3 ticket into a $60 late pick 4 ticket. The other thing they will do is avoid the pick 4, and just bet a late pick 3. This is due to fear of that 1st leg pick 4 loss. So, my advice is to look for pick 4 plays where you like a single in the 1st leg. That's important. There a lot of people who's preferred horse in that late pick 4 yesterday at HWD was the 2nd fav that won the first leg. They didn't trust it(cuz scared of being out after one leg.) So, they put $20 into the late pick 3, and hit for $134. They know they should of had over $600 for that late p4, and they know they could of done it for $20. Right? The most obvious horses won the last 2 races. The winner of the 2nd leg was like the 5th deep horse for most people. If you liked the Talamo horse in the 1st leg, then it's a $20 p4 bet. So, look for p4 bets where the 1st leg has a horse you can single. Then you can go 5x2x2 etc. the rest of the way.

this is very true. the first leg of any multileg wager is the most critical for this psychological reason.

westcoastinvader 05-15-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
curt get a job..play when you can..its tough for anyone who can take the losses over a period of time..you will have a cold streak everyone does.and when that happens and your short on cash you will not think clearly then go bust..if you must.find 2 prime plays of the day. if you make money.shut it down. play the next time you have a few prime plays..be happy with any forward movement of your bankroll.dont think im hot.. just be happy with your return.. this is the way you can build a bankroll and not get busted.betting action bets on a bad track..ie mountianer ect will kill you

take the dark days off..study hard watch alot of races /get a w list of horses
on drf. good luck


Curt, my "non-gambling" advice on your thoughts is to keep your living expense overhead low.

I lived off of Calder and Gulfstream and the dogs for about a year with a little barely above minimum wage 20 hour/week job on the side while I was taking a couple grad classes. I had a roommate and a "paid for" car and only split utilities and rent and food to pay for, and made a pretty nice life during that time.

I also took advantage of a junket out of Fort Lauderdale that flew to the Playboy Club casino in The Bahamas each afternoon for $20 round trip with a before sunrise return.

Of course I watched the race recaps on Miami TV each afternoon immediately following my viewing of "The Rockford Files" and "Hogan's Heroes."

And I had lots of time for my share of women. Since I barely worked, I found a couple of especially good ladies who loved to fish, and I would take them for cheap night trips to fish the Gulfstream for kingfish, or the reefs of Key Largo for red snapper and yellow tail. I always ate what I caught......

In retrospect, I guess I might have wasted that year, or so.

Not!

:-)

TheSpyder 05-16-2009 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
if you must.find 2 prime plays of the day. if you make money.shut it down. play the next time you have a few prime plays..be happy with any forward movement of your bankroll.dont think im hot.. just be happy with your return.. this is the way you can build a bankroll and not get busted.betting action bets on a bad track..ie mountianer ect will kill you

This is the first time I've seen this is writing but you are so right. I don't know how many times I've had some big hits and followed it with long dry spells as I think " I'm Hot". That old saying of playing with house money is one of the biggest lies that makes a fool of me.

Very good point made here!

Bigsmc 05-16-2009 06:49 AM

$2k to win on Big Drama.

rontheman1964 05-16-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
$2k to win on Big Drama.


Well, that would solve his dilemma one way or the other....:D

RollerDoc 05-16-2009 10:41 AM

You really should not consider this. There may be some attractive odds on different horses out there but the bottom line is NONE of those odds are in your favor to be successful in the scenario you described.

Despite a tough economy, and challenging job market, there is still always room for talented employees. It's out there for you, just go find it.

hockey2315 05-16-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc
You really should not consider this. There may be some attractive odds on different horses out there but the bottom line is NONE of those odds are in your favor to be successful in the scenario you described.

Despite a tough economy, and challenging job market, there is still always room for talented employees. It's out there for you, just go find it.

Don't you only bet like 4 times a year? Maybe not the best source of advice. . .

RollerDoc 05-16-2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Don't you only bet like 4 times a year? Maybe not the best source of advice. . .

Regardless....in this case it is sound advice.

westcoastinvader 05-16-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc
Regardless....in this case it is sound advice.

Baloney!


Drink, gamble and chase women, Curt!

Listen to some good music, and maybe buy some more music along the way.

I'm not prescribing or recommending anything I haven't done before.

Any other pursuits besides drinking, gambling, listening to music and/or chasing women will just be a waste of time.


Go for the glory while you've got the time, opportunity and motive.

Those stars don't align often in the lifetime of most.

Take a taste, and chew it well.

If it doesn't work out, just say "f-it" and come back again with a new plan.

At least you will always be able to say you had the nads to take the chance.

westcoastinvader 05-16-2009 10:56 PM

To bring it back to current relevance, I wish I would have chased the girl in The Preakness today.

I didn't cash a ticket.

No problem. I'm gonna watch my recording of the telecast in a few and enjoy it well.

Maybe in a few...and more.....I'll re-tell the story of today's Preakness as if I cashed BIG on Rachel Alexander....

:-)

westcoastinvader 05-18-2009 12:56 AM

This board is wearing thin.

Narcissists, many who post here, happen to be.

Myself not included, of course.

:-)


Seriously, the lame arse "tit for tat" that is a regular occurrence on most threads here day to day is becoming a huge reason not to even bother visiting here.

But perhaps....that's just my opinion.

2Hot4TV 05-18-2009 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
This board is wearing thin.

Narcissists, many who post here, happen to be.

Myself not included, of course.

:-)


Seriously, the lame arse "tit for tat" that is a regular occurrence on most threads here day to day is becoming a huge reason not to even bother visiting here.

But perhaps....that's just my opinion.

It's bee that way for a long while.


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