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paisjpq 08-08-2006 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
78 was yet another Secretariat cross...$550k but not for me.

can't dispute that he has a TRENDY pedigree though

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
sounded like an rna but I wasn't paying enough attention to be sure

Ok, excuse me for being ignorant, but what does "rna" mean?

paisjpq 08-08-2006 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Ok, excuse me for being ignorant, but what does "rna" mean?

reserve not attained. or a buy back;)

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
reserve not attained. or a buy back;)

Thank you! :o

sumitas 08-08-2006 09:47 PM

82, there's that Secretariat/Sir Gaylord cross...nice ped on this colt. $575k and my congrats to the buyers. my kinda ped.

paisjpq 08-08-2006 09:50 PM

85 a unique ped. I like it when they don't just breed to whatever is most fashionable...but really fit the mare to the stud. won't bring what he's worth because of it though.:(

sumitas 08-08-2006 09:51 PM

what a steal $145k on 85...worth much more...beatiful ped with a strong Selene and Scapa Flow influence...this could be a real good one.

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
what a steal $145k on 85...worth much more...

No shiat... NICE looking colt.

paisjpq 08-08-2006 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
what a steal $145k on 85...worth much more...

agreed. see above

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 09:55 PM

88 is a bit lanky for my liking.

paisjpq 08-08-2006 09:55 PM

jaysus somebody get these guys some cough drops and don't let them go out tonight.

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 09:59 PM

I like this colt (hip 90)... I wish the video streaming was better.

paisjpq 08-08-2006 10:02 PM

I agree about the video feed. it's a tough angle too, looking down from the balcony. but the pavillion isn't very big so maybe they had no choice.

sumitas 08-08-2006 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
can't dispute that he has a TRENDY pedigree though

Island Kitty as the 2nd dam doesn't hurt either...it's a super pedigree. i like a lot about it excpt for that Secreatarait cross it was one of the nicest peds across 5 gens in the sale.

paisjpq 08-08-2006 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Island Kitty as the 2nd dam doesn't hurt either...it's a super pedigree. i like a lot about it excpt for that Secreatarait cross it was one of the nicest peds across 5 gens in the sale.

sec. was a good broodmare sire. He's becoming hard to avoid, esp when people are not mindful of what they are doing (breed to sell vs. breed to race).

sumitas 08-08-2006 10:16 PM

oh yes, Sec is a great influence within a pedigree. But pedigree expert Ellen Parker advises to avoid a Secretariat inbreed. go with the Sir Gaylord cross or cross his dam line. she maintains you get a sounder horse this way, plus you have the racing influence of Secretariat. 82 is the example of how you can breed Secretariat within a pedigree.

i see they even doubled a Sir Gaylord in that one to give you 3 Somethingroyals. i think that works.

Elusive Quality has the Sec/SG cross in his ped. Many good ones do regardless of sex.

paisjpq 08-08-2006 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
oh yes, Sec is a great influence within a pedigree. But pedigree expert Ellen Parker advises to avoid a Secretariat inbreed. go with the Sir Gaylord cross or cross his dam line. she maintains you get a sounder horse this way, plus you have the racing influence of Secretariat. 85 is the example of how you can breed Secretariat within a pedigree.

I know. he had a beautiful page....but you saw the price he brought. the market does not support well planned and executed matings. Because they usually don't include the NOW sire. It's a shame.
Those who are breeding to race have much more options and can be more observant of the dos and don'ts of soundnes etc.
I really liked 85.

sumitas 08-08-2006 10:22 PM

sorry, i meant 82...and i edited my post...

but 85 is tremendous and a great buy if it flys. beautifully bred.

Balletto 08-08-2006 10:38 PM

Finally! Some pedigree discussion! I missed the sale while out on a date but I must say, looking over the results hip 4 Aldebaran-Appealing Kris and hip 56 Pulpit-Forever Rainbows went for lower than I thought.

Both those fillies are tremendous broodmare prospects and barring anything atrocious in the physical department we dont know about, just became very good buys.

Appealing Kris hails from one of the most consistent families around, that of Judy Rae. Judy Rae is responsible for the whole Courtly Dee clan and she was also a half-sister to the granddam of Swaps among others. I should also note Appealing Kris was a very useful racemare and is now a stakes producer and being bred very well.

Forever Rainbows has been an interesting mare to watch from a racing perspective. She's a Deputy Minister half to Winning Colors which makes Miss Carmie her 2nd dam. She's also had two stakes-quality colts win tough allowances at major tracks, such as Saratoga, and I would imagine its only a matter of time before she gets that major stakes winner that can make her daughters REAL valuable.

Balletto 08-08-2006 10:46 PM

I should also add that the Keenland Sept cat is now online. This is going to take me all night to go through. lol


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