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miraja2 04-29-2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
what the hell is this with 3 lukas horses

If those three were allowed to run it as a relay race where each one of them only had to run 3 furlongs.....they might have an outside chance.....to hit the board.

Handicappy 04-29-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
If RA is all that she is being touted as, is the derby/oaks double even worth betting. The only way to make real money on the double is if she loses in my opinion since she is most likely a single on most tix.

I know about all the hype with respect to Rachel Alexandra but the last work was way too fast for the trainers liking. I think that was her race. I know about Hard Spun and what he did a couple of years ago coming off a blazing work but I don't think the trainer liked Calvin running her that fast. I think she is vulnerable and am putting Bafferts horse with Flying spur and justwhistledixie for the double. I think the last one is coming into this with just the right rest and should run her best which should do it if RA falters. And I think she will.
As for the derby half of the double, I am still working on it. I do like Pioneer alot with Friesan Fire, Hold Me Back, Mr. Hot Stuff and Desert Party. IWR from everything I have heard is gonna be a handful and I don't like Talamo's inexperience which he put on display in the Gotham. I don't get the hype on Dunkirk. three races, hasn't won a stake, never raced at 2. Too lean for me to put any money on. Chocolate Candy could be at huge odds and his stretch run against a slow pace in the Santa Anita Derby was very impressive. Should be a great show for fans. I'll be at a Derby Party at Belmont.

CSC 04-29-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy
I know about all the hype with respect to Rachel Alexandra but the last work was way too fast for the trainers liking. I think that was her race. I know about Hard Spun and what he did a couple of years ago coming off a blazing work but I don't think the trainer liked Calvin running her that fast. I think she is vulnerable and am putting Bafferts horse with Flying spur and justwhistledixie for the double. I think the last one is coming into this with just the right rest and should run her best which should do it if RA falters. And I think she will.
As for the derby half of the double, I am still working on it. I do like Pioneer alot with Friesan Fire, Hold Me Back, Mr. Hot Stuff and Desert Party. IWR from everything I have heard is gonna be a handful and I don't like Talamo's inexperience which he put on display in the Gotham. I don't get the hype on Dunkirk. three races, hasn't won a stake, never raced at 2. Too lean for me to put any money on. Chocolate Candy could be at huge odds and his stretch run against a slow pace in the Santa Anita Derby was very impressive. Should be a great show for fans. I'll be at a Derby Party at Belmont.

Hard Spun ran a fantastic race in the derby, I understand where you are coming from but it's hard to not listen to some very knowledgable people that have seen her work so it's tough to be dead set against her at this point. I agree with you about Talamo and his lack of experience, to me he has been a mediocre rider since losing his bug status, if it means anything if Ronnie Franklin can win a derby I'm sure Joe can if he has the best horse.

my miss storm cat 04-29-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
If you believe anyone can beat Justwhistledixie or Flying Spur for 2nd or 3rd, I agree that money can be made here.

Yeah, Nan. :eek:

RA / Nan

King Glorious 05-01-2009 02:27 PM

A virtual walkover now with no Dixie. Hell, it was a walkover anyway. If there ever was a situation where a horse could win a grade one race and gain no stature at all, this looks like it.

robfla 05-01-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Don't forget to key him for 7th in the septafecta.

He sucks.



sucked enough to win

robfla 05-01-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I like Bullsbay in that race. A LOT.


good call

Sightseek 05-01-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla
good call

I second that. :tro:

philcski 05-01-2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I like Bullsbay in that race. A LOT.

:). ;)

Coach Pants 05-01-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
:). ;)

Loves him some Churchill. Good call.

CSC 05-01-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I like Bullsbay in that race. A LOT.

Good call Phil, hope you stuck with him.

hockey2315 05-01-2009 04:05 PM

This Bravo coverage is hell. . .

Scurlogue Champ 05-01-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
This Bravo coverage is hell. . .

Haha, this is great.

booner 05-01-2009 04:21 PM

"Just look at the rumps."

I'm gonna try that one. :D

Coach Pants 05-01-2009 04:22 PM

Hopefully they'll have the Oaks on Hustler HD channel next year.

booner 05-01-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Hopefully they'll have the Oaks on Hustler HD channel next year.

Oh hell yea!!! :D

Sightseek 05-01-2009 04:28 PM

Worst racing broadcast EVAH!

pgardn 05-01-2009 04:35 PM

they are streaming this thing folks...

if you want different coverage I got a site

if ya wants

not stellar either

booner 05-01-2009 04:48 PM

Expected a win, but like that......

Wow. :eek:

Sightseek 05-01-2009 04:49 PM

Remarkable!!!


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