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3kings 02-28-2009 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He stunk in that game. Maybe it was a bad game or he was hurting or something but his guys were chasing Ben all over the place or he was holding or offsides.

He pretty much stunk all year. He is an agressive run blocker but needs to improve in the passing game. Going into free agency the Steelers had almost no lineman under contract so their hands were tied. They franchised Starks, tendered Colon and now resigned Keoamtu, so now they have all their starters back but they know they have to improve this area.

declansharbor 02-28-2009 12:50 PM

Cassell to CHiefs???

ateamstupid 02-28-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Cassell to CHiefs???

Vrabel too.

declansharbor 03-02-2009 10:27 PM

HOush to the Seahawks and Derrick Ward off to the TB Bucs

Ward reportedly a 4 yr. 17 mil and HOush got a 5 year 40 mil, I believe...

declansharbor 03-02-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
HOush to the Seahawks and Derrick Ward off to the TB Bucs

Ward reportedly a 4 yr. 17 mil and HOush got a 5 year 40 mil, I believe...

Tennessee was also active today, landing DT JOvan Haye and WR Nate Washington...A few nice additions for the Titans.

-BT- 03-03-2009 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
HOush to the Seahawks and Derrick Ward off to the TB Bucs

Ward reportedly a 4 yr. 17 mil and HOush got a 5 year 40 mil, I believe...


i guess ocho cinco is looking mighty good as a #1 wr again eh cincy?
what a piss poor franchise to let this guy go

-bt-

Bigsmc 03-03-2009 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Tennessee was also active today, landing DT JOvan Haye and WR Nate Washington...A few nice additions for the Titans.

Haye is very servicable on the inside. He won't make the Pro Bowl, but he is solid against the run and can get after the QB on occaision.

Scav 03-03-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
HOush to the Seahawks and Derrick Ward off to the TB Bucs

Ward reportedly a 4 yr. 17 mil and HOush got a 5 year 40 mil, I believe...

Housh would have been a perfect fit for the Bears but no, they don't believe in free agent acquistions.

And they think Devin Hester is a #1 receiver.....:rolleyes:

MaTH716 03-03-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by -BT-
i guess ocho cinco is looking mighty good as a #1 wr again eh cincy?
what a piss poor franchise to let this guy go

-bt-

Agree about the piss poor franchise ,but they have so many holes and potential ones (what the hell has happened to Carson Palmer?) that giving Housh 8 mil per year is a bit over the top for them. I actually think that 8 Mil for Housh is a bit much for anyone.

-BT- 03-03-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Agree about the piss poor franchise ,but they have so many holes and potential ones (what the hell has happened to Carson Palmer?) that giving Housh 8 mil per year is a bit over the top for them. I actually think that 8 Mil for Housh is a bit much for anyone.


the thing about it is he's a top 5 wr, like it or not. Now Cincy has to make ocho cinco the #1 or cut him and move squeeky clean church going chris henry to the # 1, both seem like excellent options if i'm the gm:rolleyes:

-bt-

Coach Pants 03-03-2009 10:02 AM

Oh yay. The Titans got Washington. :rolleyes:

We don't need no stinkin' receivers!!

ateamstupid 03-03-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT-
the thing about it is he's a top 5 wr, like it or not.

Really?

declansharbor 03-03-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Really?

Especially not for the next 5 years, but we all know he wont be around that long. (15 mil gauranteeed)

Tom, your team (Bears) really isnt falling behind the ball here. This FA class, with the exception of a few, is WEAK. This year, more than others in the past, is the year to build through the draft. Stockpile some picks, maneuver up, and fill your holes that way. There are more than a fair share of wr's in the draft that could come in and make a big impact on your team, or any team for that matter. I think signing the tackle from CAR, is a good start to this free agency period, just like our signing of Stacy Andrews. The rest of the pieces will fall in place sooner or later.

I personally LOVE what the Eagles are doing. I know I'm in the puny minority throughout the whole fanbase by saying that, but the ones hating it are the ones letting their hearts do the talking. IN fact, my old man and I got into a shouting match about it over teh phone last night, in which he hung up the phone on me. We bickered back and forth about letting the 'heart and soul' just walk. He horselaughed me when I told him I loved the moves. Would I have loved to have kept Dawkins for next year?? Sure, but not if its going to hinder our progress in the next 2-3 years. He went for teh most money knowing it's the last dotted line he'll ever sign in this league. Now, if we didnt have a capable replacement in tow, I'd be howling to the moon as well, but such is not the case. You have to look at it from a different standpoint in order to make sense. The Eagles simply do not make mistakes when it comes to releasing/not re-signing aging veterans. They've done the best job of that in the league the past 5-7 years IMO. The list of guys we let go, at the peak of their popularity and on the decline in their ability, is a long one. We just move along and plug the holes.


So, in short, PHUCK Houshmanzadah. He's a possession reciever. The only wideout to be had that is worth Gord Gecko bucks is Anquan Boldin, and he's inked up. If he isnt able to be pryed away from the Cards, just sit back and wait for the draft. Thats when the real fun begins, and that is where TEAMS are built for the long haul.

MaTH716 03-03-2009 02:06 PM

Apparently the Jets snag another one!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3948787

declansharbor 03-03-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Apparently the Jets snag another one!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3948787

Yea, I was shocked when they let him leave without an offer. I thought for a second that he might make his way down 95, but Ryan clearly has the in's with the ex-Ravens. Nice addition.

SniperSB23 03-03-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Apparently the Jets snag another one!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3948787

Is that a positive development? Leonhard is pretty mediocre.

-BT- 03-03-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Really?


aigth so top 6 in receptions, i fluffed it a little
:eek:

-bt-

MaTH716 03-03-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Is that a positive development? Leonhard is pretty mediocre.

I will defer that question to the #1 Jets fan around here. I honestly haven't seen enough of him to make a fair evaluation.

SniperSB23 03-03-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I will defer that question to the #1 Jets fan around here. I honestly haven't seen enough of him to make a fair evaluation.

Well the Jets fans will find out how mediocre he is soon enough. He was with the Bills three years and he's not very good. Slow, average tackler, and can't make big plays without help. I have to imagine the Jets could have done just as well plugging a 2nd or 3rd round pick in there. He started 2007 with the Bills second string behind Ko Simpson. Simpson suffered a season ending injury in week one moving Leonhard up to first string. He quickly proved ineffective and was demoted to second string in favor of George Wilson who had been switched from wide receiver in the preseason. Wilson then went down for the season and Leonhard was back in a starting role. A few weeks later they benched him yet again, this time for waiver wire pick up Bryan Scott. Not surprisingly he was allowed to walk after the season.

ateamstupid 03-03-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Well the Jets fans will find out how mediocre he is soon enough. He was with the Bills three years and he's not very good. Slow, average tackler, and can't make big plays without help. I have to imagine the Jets could have done just as well plugging a 2nd or 3rd round pick in there. He started 2007 with the Bills second string behind Ko Simpson. Simpson suffered a season ending injury in week one moving Leonhard up to first string. He quickly proved ineffective and was demoted to second string in favor of George Wilson who had been switched from wide receiver in the preseason. Wilson then went down for the season and Leonhard was back in a starting role. A few weeks later they benched him yet again, this time for waiver wire pick up Bryan Scott. Not surprisingly he was allowed to walk after the season.

He had a very good year with Rex, so I'm confident that he'll be able to improve the Jets' secondary. Seems to me like he's gotten better every season in the NFL. Mainly I think that he fits with the Jets' system and personnel. He's a quick, hard-hitting safety that can cover, which will allow Hollywood to be more of a centerfielder. You can't be that slow if you're a full-time punt returner averaging 11.6 yards per return. Kerry had a terrible year last year, and a big part of it was that he constantly had to make up for the shortcomings in pass coverage of Abram Elam and Eric Smith. This also allows Elam to go back to being a pure run-stuffer and blitzing safety and stop trying to cover down the field.

Neither of the secondary guys the Jets got (Sheppard or Leonhard) are beasts, but they don't have to be. Their jobs are to take pressure off of Revis and Rhodes and stop making it so easy to pick on the other half of the secondary.


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