If govt spending were the answer then Cuba and Russia would have model economies

But money that goes to education and allows some of us
to teach a class of 15 instead of 35 that is waste. I got it.
Because paying for more teachers does not stimulate job
production. Got that.

And excuse me, but this country saved tons of money during
Bush I, and Clinton with the closing of military bases. In this
city alone 3 very large Air Force bases were closed and we
thought it was the end of the world. It was not. So lets be
careful about the military spending thing. The military folks
that are teachers know this. They experienced it.

true! i just think folks should look more to their local and state governments-the feds seem to get blamed for everything wrong, and that's not always the correct place to put the blame.

Then what is the answer?
Right now given the economic situation you would
scrap the current bill and do nothing... OK.

After reading a few op-ed pieces in the NY Times I can see why the liberals are so nuts. Wow.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/07/op...erbert.html?em

"The party without a heart"
"...mistake him for a class act"
"...party without a brain"
The obligatory shot at Rush L
"govt spending is needed to replace demand for goods and services"
"alleviate enormous suffering..."
Then the arrogant ending.

Sorry to dissappoint.
It has now become a National issue,
not a local one. Look at state and local governments
balance sheets.

Where have you seen a new school built that is a waste?
All I can speak to is this city, and I have yet to see a new
school built where no kids or teachers show up. And I see
schools occupied that are absolutley falling apart and are
dangerous.

Of course not. But seriously this is almost entirely a political laden bill, not real help. We all realize that politics play a role in our life (usually to the detriment) but this simply is a bad bill that originally was much worse.

Like everything else it has become a national issue yet it does not belong there. slippery slope....

You never saw a school built where it wasnt needed
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123396676711659061.html

lets say hypothetically that none of it was wasted, the point is we're broke, so in effect we're taking this money from future generations of taxpayers to use it now. those future generations are not going to see the benefits are our spending splurge. no, they're going to inherit a mess, and a lower standard of living. we're running this country into the ground by making endless excuses for why we have to borrow and spend.

Nah it never worked.
When Sputnik went up, the spending on science
education went up immediately. It directly led
to more engineers,scientists, doctors. We became
the leaders in so many major innovations directly
because of this. From computers, to medicine,
we are/were the best.

No effect whatsoever.

You may be perfectly correct.
So what would you do?
Right now?
Just sit tight?

Give us a plan.

Nope I never have.
That is why I said in my experience.
The article illustrates how spending this much money
goes to the wrong places and not the places that need it.
LIke here, where I live. Where a new High School is built every
2 years now and immediately has portable classrooms on it before it opens.

Now would you like me to give you the
article on the B-1 bomber toilet seat cost?

NASA is not education

If you got a 10% raise would you teach better?

hell yes! that is actually a much better solution.

contrary to what Obama says we are not facing catastrophe if we don't pass this bill.

this bill stimulates government spending, thats all. its also a payoff to the causes and groups that supported Obama, unions and such.

The Milwaukee Public School system, for example, would receive $88.6 million over two years for new construction projects under the House version of the stimulus -- even though the district currently has 15 vacant school buildings and declining enrollment. Between 1990 and 2008, inflation-adjusted MPS spending rose by 35%, per-pupil spending increased by 36% and state aid grew by 58%. Over the same period, enrollment fell by a percentage point and is projected to continue falling, leaving the system with enough excess capacity for some 22,000 students.


And Bingo was name O

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123396676711659061.html

Had to put the quote up for those to lazy to read the link.

Everybody knows that you have to take care of the maitre d' to get the best table. This is like tipping them $800 billion.

It did a hell of a lot more than NASA.
That is a very old line. It happened in SCHOOLS.

Hell no.
But take a bunch of that 10% to pay someone capable
to teach that lowers my class sizes in every class I have
and I guarantee you, kids will
learn more.

And it will not be how to write properly or
use of the English language.
God I am awful.

So do nothing.
Ok we got your plan.
I think Herby Hoover did the same thing.

You know I am the only one
replying here.

I think all the liberals are lazy and
of course asleep early Sunday morning.

Early here anyway.

Where is Milton when we need him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1...layer_embedded