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Riot 01-19-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Also some of the very worst students in Science that I have taught
come from private religion associated schools. If this is close to representative to the rest of the country we can forget about any advancement in Science. Oh yes. The home schooled kids are awful
also Science wise. Even if their parents are Doctors.

That reminds me, you have to come here to the Creation Museum. Dinosaurs and humans (neanderthals, all hominids, etc) and all extinct species walking the earth together.

Gotta love the way it screws with the minds of the little fourth graders, when the person giving the tour to the school group asks questions, students eagerly answer, then the tour guide tells the students they are WRONG about what they've learned about when dinosaurs lived, how they died, etc.

paisjpq 01-19-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That was quick...I just hope it was a mod that deleted it and not the man of his word.


I did it...if he wants to gay bash he's in the wrong place.

dellinger63 01-19-2009 09:41 PM

Big Round of Applause
 
For GBbob for starting the thread......

Tomorrow's a Cease Fire Day



Just a pat on the back


AeWingnut 01-19-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
The "private sector" not only wants better cures for cancer, ruptured ACL's, etc., the private sector is the primary scientific researcher here.


not the same

Riot 01-19-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
not the same

The private sector I associate with wants it.

AeWingnut 01-19-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
The private sector I associate with wants it.

the government has not banned embryonic stem cell research they just haven't paid for it.

I thought hte private sector didn't belive in that particular kind of stem cell research.

either way I don't think the government should pay for it

Riot 01-19-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I did it...if he wants to gay bash he's in the wrong place.

:tro: :tro:

hi_im_god 01-19-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb
When someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, armed, just beg for your life in a very soft and tearful voice.

Yeah that gun control is a real a great idea...

if someone strafes my house in the middle of the night and i don't have an anti-aircraft emplacement, should i do the same?

i'm not really sure how i feel about gun control but i love the paranoid fantasy as justification for your opinion. armed gangs roaming your neighborhood?

ddthetide 01-19-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..

* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry disagree, just enforce the gun laws already on the books.
* Ban the Death Penalty disagree, stop all the appeals that drag on for 15-20 years. kill'em, cremate'm and stop wasting the money.
* Full rights for Gays to marry agree
* Simplify the tax code agree
* No offshore drilling disagree, less dependence on foreign oil and better efficiency on what we are using
* Stem Cell research at further levels agree, if it will help people in the future
* Less farm subsidies unless warranted agree, make the adjustments and stop the abuse.
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards
* Revisit NAFTA agree and make corrections
* NASA...what does it mean?
* Environment, Environment, Environment
i'd like to see big welfare reform. it will never happen under this administration. my fear this administration gives them even more.

This should be fun..

i usually try and keep my mouth shut in here.:o

SCUDSBROTHER 01-19-2009 10:48 PM

Actually, I have pressure on me to get a gun. The dogs chased a guy out of the backyard 3 weeks ago. Have they done studies on how many people have killed a family member versus killed an actual intruder? Guns are pretty unforgiving.

hi_im_god 01-19-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Actually, I have pressure on me to get a gun. The dogs chased a guy out of the backyard 3 weeks ago. Have they done studies on how many people have killed a family member versus killed an actual intruder? Guns are pretty unforgiving.

statistically, you're far more likely to kill someone you know or yourself with a gun over someone breaking into your house.

but you need to weigh that against whatever level of irrational paranoia you have about armed stranger's bursting through your door.

ninetoone 01-19-2009 11:02 PM

My wife won't let me get a gun. The best I can hope for is one of those old style credit card swipers. I figure any burglar coming up my steps that hears that noise will sh*t their pants and run.

miraja2 01-19-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
stop all the appeals that drag on for 15-20 years. kill'em, cremate'm and stop wasting the money.

There was a guy awhile ago here in Illinois named Anthony Porter. He was on death row for something like 15 years. Then, two days before he was scheduled to be executed, his lawyers won some sort of stay of execution after finally uncovering some kind of new evidence. Death penalty advocates moaned about the never ending appeals process and the fact that a new investigation was being launched.
Later on, it turned out that Porter was found to be innocent. Some other guy confessed to the crime and everything.

Are you saying it would be better if Porter had simply been executed right away....before nasty things like the actual facts of the case got involved?
And by the way, Porter is just one of many: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/inno...reed-death-row

Some of the interesting stuff is at the bottom:
Average number of years between being sentenced to death and exoneration: 9.5 years
Number of cases in which DNA played a substantial factor in establishing innocence: 17


It makes me wonder how many people were executed for crimes they didn't do in the era BEFORE DNA testing, and how many might be executed now, before some future technology is developed that we don't yet know about.

brianwspencer 01-19-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
There was a guy awhile ago here in Illinois named Anthony Porter. He was on death row for something like 15 years. Then, two days before he was scheduled to be executed, his lawyers won some sort of stay of execution after finally uncovering some kind of new evidence. Death penalty advocates moaned about the never ending appeals process and the fact that a new investigation was being launched.
Later on, it turned out that Porter was found to be innocent. Some other guy confessed to the crime and everything.

Are you saying it would be better if Porter had simply been executed right away....before nasty things like the actual facts of the case got involved?
And by the way, Porter is just one of many: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/inno...reed-death-row

Some of the interesting stuff is at the bottom:
Average number of years between being sentenced to death and exoneration: 9.5 years
Number of cases in which DNA played a substantial factor in establishing innocence: 17


It makes me wonder how many people were executed for crimes they didn't do in the era BEFORE DNA testing, and how many might be executed now, before some future technology is developed that we don't yet know about.

Remember this well.....:tro:

SCUDSBROTHER 01-20-2009 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
statistically, you're far more likely to kill someone you know or yourself with a gun over someone breaking into your house.

but you need to weigh that against whatever level of irrational paranoia you have about armed stranger's bursting through your door.

No, I am not the one who wants to get it. I actually trust my dogs enough. They adore me( I feed them.) I would maybe prefer to get one more larger dog, or a tazer. Black Rage is for real. I'm not crazy about the lethal option being around here.

hi_im_god 01-20-2009 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
No, I am not the one who wants to get it. I actually trust my dogs enough. They adore me( I feed them.) I would maybe prefer to get one more larger dog, or a tazer. Black Rage is for real. I'm not crazy about the lethal option being around here.

dogs are a great option but just remember they'll do nothing about the threat of mole people tunneling into your bedroom.

when that happens all you can do is beg for your life in a soft and tearful voice unless you have a gun.

joeydb 01-20-2009 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry.
Hitler would agree. I strongly DISAGREE

* Ban the Death Penalty
What crime could a child commit to earn the death penalty? BAN ABORTION first

* Full rights for Gays to marry
Full rights for Gays to Marry what?

* Simplify the tax code*
Bad for horse racing The Breck Girl already got it in a tax shelter anyway. How about cut spending?

* No offshore drilling - When congress quits flying around in jets DISAGREE

* Stem Cell research at further levels - Private sector doesn't believe in it DISAGREE

* Less farm subsidies unless warrented - What? Then how can the world bank give them loans guaranteed with my money to crappy ass 3rd world countries that buy US grain? ok, no Wind Farm Subsidies

* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards - Privatize the school system let parents pay

* Revisit NAFTA - NAFTA that was passed by a demChiComCrimocRat congress and sign by x-42

* NASA...what does it mean? National Aeronautics and Space Administration

* Environment, Environment, Environment - do you mean Gerbil Worming? It's cyclical and an excuse to use what is known as Green Communism US is #1 on the enviroment - try going after China , mexico and India or some other crap country

Dude when are you running? I'd vote for you in a heartbeat.


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