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pgardn 12-22-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
In his situation given the options he had...yes.

We're not talking about a Rhodes scholar here. He's a tater from Mississippi who lucked out in the gene pool and got a cannon of an arm. Without it he'd be going from job to job and in and out of trouble with the law like many taters like him in the deep south.

It didn't help matters that he developed a severely narcissistic personality through the years while being coddled by the Packers organization. It also didn't help that he didn't have anyone close to him that had sense enough to tell him to sign contracts in his later years that would've enabled him to opt for free agency each year.

That's why he's a Jet. It's the black hole of the NFL and has tarnished his legacy.

Scuds and Coach Pants have melded into
a single unit.
Shocking stuff.

MaTH716 12-22-2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I'm holding out hope that Tannenbaum isn't dumb enough to go after that piece of trash Matt Cassel. Talk about a sucker move. Signing him to a big contract would be akin to betting Music Note at 1-9 in the BC Classic after her only competition scratched in the Gazelle. There's a reason the guy hadn't started a game since high school, and you could put Chuck behind that O-Line with Moss and Welker and he'd look like Dan freaking Fouts.

As an aside, the Jets leading the league with seven Pro Bowlers may be the final blow for Mangini if they can't sneak into the playoffs. I think he's a decent coach, but he's not good enough to make up for two lackluster coordinators. I'd like to see Romeo replace Sutton and Callahan promoted to OC, then Mangini get one more year to do something significant. The QB situation will be a mess (tell Favre to take a hike), but if we can suss out a gamebreaking WR in the draft, build some O-Line depth and shore up the secondary, I don't think we'll need Johnny U. back there to contend next year.


I personally think that Woody Johnson will give Mangini one more year. I still think Farve is going to ride into the sunset and try to forget totally about this year.
The way the Jets/Pats take each others players, you would think that there is a good chance that Cassel ends up the swamp. But I agree with your assesment of him. I just think about Scott Mitchell for some reason.
But it definitely poses a good question. This team is built for now, if it's not Farve then who will it be? If I was Mangini/Tannenbaum and realized that next year is my last unless you make the playoffs, would I really want my fate in Kellen Clemens hands? I wouldn't. Maybe a guy like Jeff Garcia for a season. You are a running team, get used to it and Garcia is solid plus he doesn't turn it over much. He might be enough to enable your team to make a run.
If not pack your bags because you are not going to see the new stadium. By that time Mike Holmgren's year sabatical with be over and he will be ready to come to the biggest market in the world. He will be the GM/Coach and then some major changes will be made. For the record I am not a huge fan of his, but the man has had sucess where ever he has been. Maybe he could turn around gang green. He couldn't be any worse that the last 3 head coaches that occupied that position.

GPK 12-22-2008 06:57 PM

I laughed

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,130799

ateamstupid 12-22-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
If I was Mangini/Tannenbaum and realized that next year is my last unless you make the playoffs, would I really want my fate in Kellen Clemens hands? I wouldn't.

Not saying that Clemens is definitely the answer, but considering how much Chad has improved this year thanks to not playing behind a horrendous line, I'd think Clemens at least deserves a shot behind a (mostly) competent O-Line too. My worry is that Tangini wanted him to be the QB really badly and he still couldn't beat out Chad in training camp. I'd be open to drafting a QB and bringing in a one-year guy like Garcia as a bridge, but I'd also like the jury to be in on Clemens and Ratliff before I made that decision.

pgardn 12-22-2008 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

If I am not mistaken the St. Louis player
is after his whistle.

Whistle suckling.

SniperSB23 12-23-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Would you rather be a chiefs fan? Or a skins fan? LOL (muffled by paper bag)

KC will win at least 7 games next year and might even make the playoffs. They are this year's Miami. So next year when they make the playoffs and everyone is saying 'no one saw that coming' remember this post.

Bills are toast next year, look at this schedule, 1-7 or 0-8 on the road is very likely even if they improve significantly from this year:

Home: Miami, New England, New York Jets, Houston, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Cincinnati or Cleveland

Away: Miami, New England, New York Jets, Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Tennessee

ateamstupid 12-23-2008 03:21 PM

Analyzing schedules a year in advance is completely useless. Half of those teams will end up being mediocre to terrible.

SniperSB23 12-23-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Analyzing schedules a year in advance is completely useless. Half of those teams will end up being mediocre to terrible.

Sure a few teams will move up and a few will move down but overall you can tell a schedule quality going in. The Jags and Chiefs might not be as easy as their results this year suggests and all the other teams they face on the road will almost certainly be very tough games. Tough to imagine Atlanta getting worse with a rookie QB this year and the only hope of the Titans being an easy game is if Haynesworth is in jail and Vince Young is their QB.

Stickhorse 12-23-2008 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
KC will win at least 7 games next year and might even make the playoffs. They are this year's Miami. So next year when they make the playoffs and everyone is saying 'no one saw that coming' remember this post.

Bills are toast next year, look at this schedule, 1-7 or 0-8 on the road is very likely even if they improve significantly from this year:

Home: Miami, New England, New York Jets, Houston, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Cincinnati or Cleveland

Away: Miami, New England, New York Jets, Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Tennessee

The Chiefs will not make the playoffs. San Diego will will win the west as Merriman returns and their defence stiffins.

There are too many other quality teams in the AFC that KC would have to leap frog to grab the Wild Card.

SniperSB23 12-24-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickhorse
The Chiefs will not make the playoffs. San Diego will will win the west as Merriman returns and their defence stiffins.

There are too many other quality teams in the AFC that KC would have to leap frog to grab the Wild Card.

Usually takes two years to comeback from an ACL and for a guy who relies on his speed like Merriman that could make for a tough season.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-28-2008 10:43 PM

good bye jets..and bret...lmfao.. go fins..:tro:


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