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Coach Pants 12-05-2008 04:57 PM
Kill him and his supporters. Public hangings for all.

Mortimer 12-05-2008 05:02 PM
The judge has a reputation for being a hardliner on those found guilty...although the jury presumed them to be innocent.




And so did the police...and the prosecution team.

Payson Dave 12-05-2008 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Why am I posting this? I must be a complete idiot but...what the hell!
Did OJ kill his wife and her friend?
Everybody has an opinion but the jury found him not guilty,
Had I been on that jury I would have voted likewise...Mark Furhman (sp?) made it impossible to convict him.
Is he an idiot? His actions since the crime scream "YES"
But...if we incarcerated folks for being idiots....
This latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence...
Our legal system don't state that it's ok to "get even" or balance the scales...
He should have been sentenced solely on the merits of this conviction...
Was he?
Even if he is guilty of murder...he didn't get away with anything...he simply avoided man's law...I believe there is a higher justice.
I also believe that it is better to let a guilty man go free than to punish an innocent man...isn't that a cornerstone of our system?
I find no joy in this....I find the man pathetic, yes...distasteful, but I don't get the vulturistic joy of some...
fwiw..
Somer for the most part I don't see alot (some but not a lot) that I disagree with in your post....it does seem like you are saying that there was some "get even" or "balancing of the scales"..... that might be your opinion, but not necassarilly fact....
Your statement regarding "the latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence".... is also opinion that seems to be stated a bit more like "fact"


anyhoo....perhaps some see "justice" differently than you..... maybe even some see karma as a form of "higher justice"....and that may explain the "vulturistic joy" that seems to be bothering you.

Mortimer 12-05-2008 05:09 PM
SomerTossed is a rambling fool---there is no reasoning with this pontificating cretin.

Coach Pants 12-05-2008 05:11 PM
Hey somerseve...

King Glorious 12-05-2008 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Hey somerseve...
Obviously, you don't believe in our criminal justice system.

Danzig 12-05-2008 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I agree he's a pathetic person, but I question the sentence based on the details of the event as reported....perhaps the judge had info that we do not, I don't know but it seems pretty steep....again, all I'm saying is that the sentence SHOULD reflect this case only...I can't see inside the judge's mind but I think the concern is valid enough to express.
Of course I remember the results of the civil case, but in Civil Court, the standard of proof is a lot lower, he wasn't found "guilty" he was held "responsible"...we don't use civil decisions against a person's criminal record!
How do you know the decision was racist? As I said, I would have voted not guilty and last time I checked, I was white....let me look again.........yep, still white. How can one vote to convict with a clear conscience when an admittedly racist cop handled key evidence, the same cop who admitted planting evidence in the past on black defendants because they were involved with a white woman, and bragged that he would do it again? When several other investigating officers shared his views, when key evidence was carried around in an officer's trunk instead of being turned into the evidence locker thus violating chain-of-custody regs, when the time line never quite fit, when Simpson's medical condition raised questions concerning his physical ability to commit such a violent act(s), and yes...when the damn glove didn't fit!!! (i know all about the science there but the glove didn't fit in front of the jury and the inept prosecutors had no answer). Simpson had the dream team and Darden and what's her name had no answers to much of the science...I mean hell, Simpson had F. Lee Bailey third chair!!! Bottom line...the case as presented fell well short of "beyond a reasonable doubt". I watched the circus every day, right or wrong, the jury had little choice...to call it racist is over-simplistic at best!
i disagree that furmans being part of the case was enough to produce reasonable doubt.
a finding of not guily in no way means innocent. that a lot of people feel he's finally getting delayed justice is in no way shocking, or worth of condemnation.

cowgirlintexas 12-05-2008 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Arletta!!!!
:mad:

Coach Pants 12-05-2008 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Obviously, you don't believe in our criminal justice system.
Of course not.

somerfrost 12-05-2008 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
fwiw..
Somer for the most part I don't see alot (some but not a lot) that I disagree with in your post....it does seem like you are saying that there was some "get even" or "balancing of the scales"..... that might be your opinion, but not necassarilly fact....

perhaps some see "justice" differently than you..... maybe even some see karma as a form of "higher justice"....and that may explain the "vulturistic joy" that seems to be bothering you.
Dave,
Sorry if I implied that the judge DID use the sentencing to "get even", I think I stated several times in different posts that i surely don't KNOW that for a fact, merely that it was a concern that it may have happened. Also, to reiterate, it appears very likely that the sentence will be appealed so that will determine a lot imo...if the sentence is upheld then end of story. Regarding concepts of "justice"...if I address that issue then I'll be accused of preaching again, I guess a short comment would be ...it depends upon one's belief regarding dominion of "justice"

somerfrost 12-05-2008 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
i disagree that furmans being part of the case was enough to produce reasonable doubt.
a finding of not guily in no way means innocent. that a lot of people feel he's finally getting delayed justice is in no way shocking, or worth of condemnation.
Mrs Z, if you recall, I listed a litany of concerns regarding the evidence. We can disagree on the importance of an admittedly racist cop handling key evidence after admitting to having "planted" evidence in the past. Not guilty in the context of the legal system is the same as innocent, I agree that morally it is not.

King Glorious 12-05-2008 05:31 PM
I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

Mortimer 12-05-2008 05:31 PM
EAUXH .....well then the racist limo driver removed the Bronco when he arrived...and put it back when he left.

Coach Pants 12-05-2008 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19
Don't quote that make believe s.hit.

Payson Dave 12-05-2008 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19


hmmm.....is this an opinion or is it undeniable fact????


opinions are kinda like assholes.....just because you have one does not mean you have to wave it around in everyones face...

somerfrost 12-05-2008 05:36 PM
[quote=King Glorious]I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19[/QUOTE

I understand how you feel but again, the system will decide...the sentence will be appealed and that should answer the question of fairness...only the judge knows what her decision was based upon. I'm sure Simpson's legal team will look at her previous sentencing structure and see if this is in line or not and that will be part of the appeal if different.

Danzig 12-05-2008 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Glorious
I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19
i disagree.
you know, if more people got sentences with teeth in them, maybe they wouldn't get in trouble a second time around. an armed robbery and kidnapping, basically that's what occurred. he's lucky he only got what he got.

somerfrost 12-05-2008 05:40 PM
Mrs Z, you're using a generalized argument in a specific case.

Mortimer 12-05-2008 05:44 PM
The racist limo driver also saw a large white man entering the house the about 10:55...not a black man.


The racist house guest,Kay-Toe ,( Simpsons lee-tel yallow frand) just minutes before the large white man entered the house heard Fuhrman planting the glove behind his room.

Danzig 12-05-2008 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Mrs Z, you're using a generalized argument in a specific case.
so?


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