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Bobby Fischer 11-19-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
9 times out of ten the best horse wins the race the jock is completely irrelivant most of the time.

What about the other 20%?

freddymo 11-19-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
If he won't, I will Freddy.

Always knew you could hit a change up

freddymo 11-19-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
What about the other 20%?

I am not very good at math

freddymo 11-19-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't get it.

Was beyond my limited mind

Bobby Fischer 11-19-2008 12:22 PM

i think i botched the old Yogi Berra crack "Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical."

Bobby Fischer 11-19-2008 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm not sure you'll ever really know with any certainty what percentage a jock has on a race. But it's not as much as you think IMO.

you can choose to be as detailed or as general as you want with horseracing.

A lot of horseplayers mainly look at running lines, finish position, class, and speed figures on a sheet of paper.

Of course the actual races aren't computer simulations based on programs to fit the data. There are actually primates riding around on top of ungulates dealing with atmospheric phenomena and track conditions. The different surfaces and distances vary enough and demand different enough ability sets to make it difficult to predict many races with data alone.

lolz:p jk

blackthroatedwind 11-19-2008 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:wf


Apparently your work isn't finished.....could you please square off against Fischer next?

Indian Charlie 11-19-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
9 times out of ten the best horse wins the race the jock is completely irrelivant most of the time.

I never figured you for the Pollyannish type.

djw 11-19-2008 01:37 PM

I rarely have much to add. I know my limitations and love to learn the fine points when a race is broken down in an articulate manner, but I have to state this opinion:

Between last week's riveting contest with 7K+ views, and some of the "instant classics" in this thread, it is like Christmas 5 weeks early!!!!!

As we used to say in the dyas ov vinyl "The Hits just keep on coming!":)

CSC 11-19-2008 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Perfect example of this today: Sanchez on Mucho Gusto; decides to go after the still strong (after slowish fractions) speed and gets run down late losing 2nd-- doesn't even hit the board.

I'm at work so I will have to view it later, but it sounds like we are in agreement. The only difference is you prefer the Jock making his move once they straighten out in the stretch. I think this is a debatable point and it really depends on which track you are running at, the type of horse running, track conditions...ect...ect when the move is made. The main point is not to engage too early as to sacrifice your horse for a good placing, I like to refer to this as horses doing the dirty work.

philcski 11-19-2008 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
When doesn't Sanchez move prematurely?

You've never Sanchez moved prematurely?








lol

The Bid 11-21-2008 05:49 PM

Today in the last race at Churchill Downs Aldo Cuntchano topped them all aboard the 4 horse. What a pathetic display

The Bid 11-21-2008 06:13 PM

Cannonshell Im looking at the charts and I see you claimed that horse. Thats a really good claim.

Are you riding Aldo Cuntchano back? Good luck with that horse should improve greatly

the_fat_man 11-21-2008 06:31 PM

The video of that race should be used as evidence to argue that whips should be banned.

The Bid 11-21-2008 06:46 PM

I would use the video of that race to show that Aldo Cuntchano should be banned

the_fat_man 11-22-2008 12:57 PM

QUICK

drug test Edgar Prado. That's about as bad a ride as you'll ever see (on an even money shot) by a reputedly top flight jockey.

Stop and go, Edgar; it's a car.

Calimonco

blackthroatedwind 11-22-2008 01:01 PM

Jean-Luc didn't exactly distinguish himself either.

If I had bet I might have fooled around with the 10....and gotten nothing and been disgusted.


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