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boldruler 07-31-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Let me list some numbers for you since I know you believe in Beyers:


106
116
120
128
114
124
123

128 IIRC....is the highest Beyer ever freaking recorded, dude!

Not for long. Secretariat's track record at 10F at Churchill is in serious jeopardy this fall. Expect a sub 2M and a stakes record in the Travers too.

Cajungator26 07-31-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
AP Indy's only get faster. This is a horse that can run in the 120's whenever he wants. And he is 3, GZ was licking his wounds when he was 3.

Do you jump on every bandwagon that comes along? LOL

irishtrekker 07-31-2006 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
One by a neck....over last year's f'ing horse of the year!!!!

...and over Roses in May, who went on to win the Dubai World Cup. That 2004 BCC performance was one of the most impressive I've seen, and he beat one hell of a field (PP, Azeri...). His accomplishments are more impressive, imho, because he wasn't sound.

No one is suggesting that Bernardini is not a good horse, but to compare him to GZ already...? I think Bernardini is an excellent colt, and he should do well in the BCC...but let's wait and see how he does for a few more races before we start comparing him to GZ and Secretariat, okay?

ArlJim78 07-31-2006 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Not for long. Secretariat's track record at 10F at Churchill is in serious jeopardy this fall. Expect a sub 2M and a stakes record in the Travers too.

That's it! You're cut off.

boldruler 07-31-2006 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Do you jump on every bandwagon that comes along? LOL

I hate the darley horses, but I have never seen a horse like this. The only horse I really believe in is this horse. I love Showing Up because I know him, but he couldn't hold this horses jock.

slotdirt 07-31-2006 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker
...and over Roses in May, who went on to win the Dubai World Cup. That 2004 BCC performance was one of the most impressive I've seen, and he beat one hell of a field (PP, Azeri...). His accomplishments are more impressive, imho, because he wasn't sound.

No one is suggesting that Bernardini is not a good horse, but to compare him to GZ already...? I think Bernardini is an excellent colt, and he should do well in the BCC...but let's wait and see how he does for a few more races before we start comparing him to GZ and Secretariat, okay?

Oh no, we're not just comparing him to Ghostzapper and Pleasantly Perfect....he's already better than both!

oracle80 07-31-2006 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Do you jump on every bandwagon that comes along? LOL

Cajun hes the BANDLEADER!! Complete with funny outfit and bubbles. He has no idea how insane he sounds, thats the great part.

slotdirt 07-31-2006 10:41 AM

This guys seems a lot like our friend kingofturfway at ESPN boards, guys. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

ArlJim78 07-31-2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker
...and over Roses in May, who went on to win the Dubai World Cup. That 2004 BCC performance was one of the most impressive I've seen, and he beat one hell of a field (PP, Azeri...). His accomplishments are more impressive, imho, because he wasn't sound.

No one is suggesting that Bernardini is not a good horse, but to compare him to GZ already...? I think Bernardini is an excellent colt, and he should do well in the BCC...but let's wait and see how he does for a few more races before we start comparing him to GZ and Secretariat, okay?

No let's not wait. Let's get all giddy like a school girl! HOY! HOY! HOY!
Greatest horse in 40+ years, and on and on and on.
Will someone please remove his battery pack?

oracle80 07-31-2006 10:43 AM

Bdeep bdeep, thats all folks!!!

irishtrekker 07-31-2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Oh no, we're not just comparing him to Ghostzapper and Pleasantly Perfect....he's already better than both!

My bad. :rolleyes: I noticed the KoT similarities, too.

eurobounce 07-31-2006 10:44 AM

If you are going to compare GZ and Bern then just look at the three year old seasons. You cant compare GZ 4 year old season to Bern's 3 year old season. I think it is rediculous to even compare these two--but at least try and make it even.

slotdirt 07-31-2006 10:44 AM

Seriously though, I'm done arguing with someone who thinks Bernardini is the next coming of Secretariat. Definitely sounds like STrong Contender's backer heading into the Lexington or whatever race it was that he ran like a dog on the TC trail.

ArlJim78 07-31-2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
This guys seems a lot like our friend kingofturfway at ESPN boards, guys. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

I agree. There is an amazing similarity in the type of posts made by those two.

Cajungator26 07-31-2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
I hate the darley horses, but I have never seen a horse like this. The only horse I really believe in is this horse. I love Showing Up because I know him, but he couldn't hold this horses jock.

You say the same thing about every horse that comes along. Please don't act like you know EVERYTHING... honestly, you're making yourself look ridiculous. Bernardini is a very nice colt to be sure, but you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

boldruler 07-31-2006 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
This guys seems a lot like our friend kingofturfway at ESPN boards, guys. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Here that comes. Me, ArlJim, and DTS, are all that guy. For the record, I was a Sweetnorthernsaint guy. I just like the two Lael horse because I have had the opportunity to meet them.
http://finalturn.com/forum/index.php...1373#msg151373

The Kingofturfway was the guy we thought was making up rumors about the Lael horses.

oracle80 07-31-2006 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Here that comes. Me, ArlJim, and DTS, are all that guy. For the record, I was a Sweetnorthernsaint guy. I just like the two Lael horse because I have had the opportunity to meet them.
http://finalturn.com/forum/index.php...1373#msg151373

The Kingofturfway was the guy we thought was making up rumors about the Lael horses.

Yet you both claimed that Lansdon wasn't who he said he was on that board and that I was actually posting as him.

SentToStud 07-31-2006 10:55 AM

All I know is that if a 3 yo does not win two of the three TC races (P given, Charismatic), it's virtually impossible for a 3 yo to win HoY. For Bernadini to get HoY, he MUST win the Travers and the BCC. No horse got HoY off a Preakness/Dandy/Travers sweep, notwithstanding 110+ Beyers.

Not easy to do, especially vs a full field of older horses in great form like he'll see in the BCC. And if Lava Man wins the Pacific, it probably won't matter anyway.

sumitas 07-31-2006 10:57 AM

hmmmmm....we all like Bern but most of us need to see more...

boldruler 07-31-2006 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Yet you both claimed that Lansdon wasn't who he said he was on that board and that I was actually posting as him.

I am sorry you guys are paranoid lunatics, but I personally didn't think the guy was who he said he was, but I imagine neither did 50% of the people at first.

The funny thing is if I was the guy you want me to be, I really doubt I would have sent a few people on this site my personal information. Or did I make that up too. LOL.


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