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ArlJim78 08-29-2008 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
He can't do this stuff, because your party is gunna fight him in Congress. That's why it isn't possible. You know that, you make it impossible, and then you claim he is the one who can't do it. It's mainly a leadership position. I don't blame Bush for not being able to privatize Social Security. HE DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES TO DO IT. Not like he didn't want to do it. He didn't fail to do it. He was kept from doing it.

If he wins the presidency, and his party controls both houses of congress, he won't have any excuses, HE WILL HAVE THE VOTES. What can Republicans do to stop him? Bush had trouble with Social Security because he did not control congress.

Antitrust32 08-29-2008 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
It was country music. I wish I was red enough to know who the artist is but it was an interesting choice. They certainly know who their target market is.


brooks and dunn... it was a rediculously great speech. Geez listening to that after hearing 8 years of dumbass bush.. makes you fall in love with Obama.

The question is... will he really do what he said he would or is it a bunch of rhetoric?

This will be a fun election.. looking forward to McCain next week and future debates. I may have to open my mind a little after that! (still dont think I can vote for a dem though)

Antitrust32 08-29-2008 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
It was country music. I wish I was red enough to know who the artist is but it was an interesting choice. They certainly know who their target market is.


brooks and dunn... it was a rediculously great speech. Geez listening to that after hearing 8 years of dumbass bush.. makes you fall in love with Obama.

The question is... will he really do what he said he would or is it a bunch of rhetoric?

This will be a fun election.. looking forward to McCain next week and future debates. I may have to open my mind a little after that! (still dont think I can vote for a dem though)

The Bid 08-29-2008 07:17 AM

Who would vote for this buffoon

dalakhani 08-29-2008 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
brooks and dunn... it was a rediculously great speech. Geez listening to that after hearing 8 years of dumbass bush.. makes you fall in love with Obama.

The question is... will he really do what he said he would or is it a bunch of rhetoric?

This will be a fun election.. looking forward to McCain next week and future debates. I may have to open my mind a little after that! (still dont think I can vote for a dem though)

I completely agree. I am very anxious to see the two debate.

But you know what is refreshing? The departure from Karl Rove tactics from both sides. No hatchet jobs and personal assaults on character thus far. That may come later but if it stays like this both men deserve a great deal of respect regardless of outcome.

GBBob 08-29-2008 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Who would vote for this buffoon

Hopefully more than vote for McCain Ryan;)

Antitrust32 08-29-2008 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by trifecta124
American flags waving and politicians speaking of God.....What is this Democratic party coming to?


LOL and he said he was going to LOWER taxes for 95% of us... eventhough according to the repubs on Larry King after Obama's speech... he voted to Raise taxes for people making 45k, so that is very hypocritical.

I didnt like how he said McCain wouldnt follow bin Laden to the cave he lives in.. because we all know that is a bunch of bullcrap. To imply that McCain wouldnt kill Osama if he had the chance is stupid and uncalled for. (ahem, it was a democrat, Bill Clinton, who had Osama bin Laden in his sights and didnt do anything about it).

Most of what he said was great... and he looked like a President last night. made us all proud. But who knows if he'll follow through.

dalakhani 08-29-2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Who would vote for this buffoon

What makes him a buffoon? Each and every time that I have heard him speak, he came across as anything but a "buffoon".

Antitrust32 08-29-2008 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I'd vote for him if he promised to be executed by firing squad if he couldn't come through with at least 25% of the promises he made in that speech.


That sounds good! I wish people were made to DO what they say.

dalakhani 08-29-2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
LOL and he said he was going to LOWER taxes for 95% of us... eventhough according to the repubs on Larry King after Obama's speech... he voted to Raise taxes for people making 45k, so that is very hypocritical.

I didnt like how he said McCain wouldnt follow bin Laden to the cave he lives in.. because we all know that is a bunch of bullcrap. To imply that McCain wouldnt kill Osama if he had the chance is stupid and uncalled for. (ahem, it was a democrat, Bill Clinton, who had Osama bin Laden in his sights and didnt do anything about it).

Most of what he said was great... and he looked like a President last night. made us all proud. But who knows if he'll follow through.

But you see, you have a wonderfully open mind and i can tell that you are honestly giving the guy a chance. And if he can't close the deal on your vote, its his own fault.

I have not closed my mind to McCain. I want to hear what he has to say.

The Bid 08-29-2008 07:35 AM

Bob, count me out of a vote for Obama, hes a fool

I cannot believe the Dems nominated Obama instead of Hillary

Antitrust why is it bullcrap that McCain would actively pursue people who have harmed US Citizens, or threatened national security. The guy is a POW, war vet, and certainly very patriotic. The chance of him following through with anything he says with regard to that is very legitiment

What makes him a Buffoon is the ridiculous things he says whenever he speaks. When the debates start McCain will torch Obama, thats when the dems will realize they nominated the wrong person

Antitrust32 08-29-2008 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
He can't do this stuff, because your party is gunna fight him in Congress.
That's why it isn't possible. You know that, you make it impossible, and then you claim he is the one who can't do it. It's mainly a leadership position. I don't blame Bush for not being able to privatize Social Security. HE DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES TO DO IT. Not like he didn't want to do it. He didn't fail to do it. He was kept from doing it.


I think the Repubs have the right idea when it comes to Social Security. If I was 60 years old I could feel different though.

dalakhani 08-29-2008 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Bob, count me out of a vote for Obama, hes a fool

I cannot believe the Dems nominated Obama instead of Hillary

Antitrust why is it bullcrap that McCain would actively pursue people who have harmed US Citizens, or threatened national security. The guy is a POW, war vet, and certainly very patriotic. The chance of him following through with anything he says with regard to that is very legitiment

What makes him a Buffoon is the ridiculous things he says whenever he speaks. When the debates start McCain will torch Obama, thats when the dems will realize they nominated the wrong person

Give me some examples.

The Bid 08-29-2008 07:47 AM

"Im ready to lead this country"

dalakhani 08-29-2008 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
"Im ready to lead this country"

So, it makes a guy a "buffoon" if he tells his potential employers that he is ready for the job for which he is applying?

The Bid 08-29-2008 07:51 AM

Yes it does when you are not qualified for that job. Like a Garbage man telling Warren Buffet hes ready to take over Berkshire Hathaway

dalakhani 08-29-2008 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Yes it does when you are not qualified for that job. Like a Garbage man telling Warren Buffet hes ready to take over Berkshire Hathaway

Right. Next time I want to hire someone, I will be sure to call you for the aptitude test.

Thanks.

Antitrust32 08-29-2008 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Bob, count me out of a vote for Obama, hes a fool

I cannot believe the Dems nominated Obama instead of Hillary

Antitrust why is it bullcrap that McCain would actively pursue people who have harmed US Citizens, or threatened national security. The guy is a POW, war vet, and certainly very patriotic. The chance of him following through with anything he says with regard to that is very legitiment

What makes him a Buffoon is the ridiculous things he says whenever he speaks. When the debates start McCain will torch Obama, thats when the dems will realize they nominated the wrong person


you misread... I said it was Bullcrap that Obama made the accusation that McCain wouldnt actively pursue.... I didnt agree with that at all.

SentToStud 08-29-2008 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
"Im ready to lead this country"

The election is all but over. All Obama has to do is keep saying "Bush-McCain" whenever he starts a sentence. It's enough.

Even if McCain was 90 years old and even if that thing on the side of his face grows to the size of a Volkswagen, it is all but hopeless for him.

GPK 08-29-2008 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Right. Next time I want to hire someone, I will be sure to call you for the aptitude test.

Thanks.


On a lighter note, Rep or Dem, you have my respect for living in DC. I'd go apeshit living anywhere near there.


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