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dalakhani 07-21-2008 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
What an idiotic and worthless comment. . . Last I checked horses have a mommy and a daddy and Gio Ponti's daddy is Tale of the Cat. 256 tomlinson - whoa that's stamina. Obviously horses can outrun their pedigree and pedigrees are up for debate, but you misunderstood (again) what I meant.

Your quote was "10f is stretching his pedigree" and this is entirely incorrect. I realize that Tale of the Cat is his sire but you failed to looked into the dam which is loaded with stamina influences.

Bred by Kilboy Estate in Kentucky, Gio Ponti is out of the stakes-placed Chipeta Springs (Alydar) and is a half-brother to Fisher Pond (A.P. Indy), winner of the 2002 Lawrence Realization H. Chipeta Springs has also produced a juvenile filly named Bon Jovi Girl, who was runner-up in her debut at Delaware Park on July 12, and a yearling colt, both by Malibu Moon. Gio Ponti's second dam is Argentinean Group 1 queen Salt Spring (Arg) (Salt Marsh). This is the family of Grade 1 victor Mongoose (Broad Brush), Grade 3 scorers Hesanoldsalt (Broad Brush) and Puxa Saco (Dehere), and further back, two-time Horse of the Year Cigar (Palace Music).


I reprinted this brisnet. Remember, stamina can come from both sides of the pedigree and obviously his Dam had something to do with his ability to get 10f. So...just admit when you are wrong because it makes you look even more foolish.

Bobby Fischer 07-21-2008 08:42 AM

both right?
 
stamina seems to be from the female side.
However, Tale of the Cats on the male side seem to always make a cheap horse.

dalakhani 07-21-2008 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
stamina seems to be from the female side.
However, Tale of the Cats on the male side seem to always make a cheap horse.

ouch...lion heart?

Bobby Fischer 07-21-2008 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
ouch...lion heart?

and there may have been one or two turf horses by ToC that could be called "somewhat classy" as well.

In general, it just isn't a sire you want to breed to if you want a classy route runner.

dalakhani 07-21-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
and there may have been one or two turf horses by ToC that could be called "somewhat classy" as well.

In general, it just isn't a sire you want to breed to if you want a classy route runner.

Oh I agree. No one would ever confuse ToC as a sire of routers. However, the dam in this case was bred to run all day long. Further review of the pedigree shows even more stamina influences than what were mentioned in that brisnet thing i copied.

Gio Ponte has a DI of 2.25 and a CD of .69. 10f is well within scope from a pedigree perspective.

hockey2315 07-21-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Oh I agree. No one would ever confuse ToC as a sire of routers. However, the dam in this case was bred to run all day long. Further review of the pedigree shows even more stamina influences than what were mentioned in that brisnet thing i copied.

Gio Ponte has a DI of 2.25 and a CD of .69. 10f is well within scope from a pedigree perspective.

The final blow to your credibility.

dalakhani 07-21-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
The final blow to your credibility.

http://www.chef-de-race.com/dosage/d...rface_2008.htm

yeah, suck on that dork. LOL

dalakhani 07-21-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
The final blow to your credibility.

http://www.chef-de-race.com/dosage/d...track_2008.htm

or that

dalakhani 07-21-2008 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
The final blow to your credibility.

http://www.chef-de-race.com/dosage/w...osage_2008.htm

last one.

lets keep what youve "blown" to yourself. LOL

ateamstupid 07-21-2008 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
http://www.chef-de-race.com/dosage/w...osage_2008.htm

last one.

lets keep what youve "blown" to yourself. LOL

You're so mature.

dalakhani 07-21-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
You're so mature.

and you are soooo mature "joey"?

This is like a high school clique with the moderator having the biggest hair.

ateamstupid 07-21-2008 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
and you are soooo mature "joey"?

This is like a high school clique with the moderator having the biggest hair.

Damn, you nailed me. :rolleyes:

dalakhani 07-21-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Damn, you nailed me. :rolleyes:

shoe fits son.

ateamstupid 07-21-2008 02:42 PM



I would say that you'll be just a memory soon, but you've never said anything worth remembering.

dalakhani 07-21-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid


I would say that you'll be just a memory soon, but you've never said anything worth remembering.

Oh, Joey, youre so clever and creative. Youre such a tough brooklyn guy.

Im just wondering if youve ever kissed a girl.

dalakhani 07-21-2008 02:47 PM

now its about time for the rest of your little clique to come in and tell me how much of an idiot i am and blah blah blah blah.

You are such a strong and powerful guy joey.

ateamstupid 07-21-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Oh, Joey, youre so clever and creative. Youre such a tough brooklyn guy.

Im just wondering if youve ever kissed a girl.

LOL, I remember you now.

dalakhani 07-21-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
LOL, I remember you now.

Thats funny...a couple of seconds ago i wasnt memorable. Get your story straight Joey.

ArlJim78 07-21-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
LOL, I remember you now.

she's hard to forget, like a toothache.

dalakhani 07-21-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
she's hard to forget, like a toothache.

Is it true what i heard about you jim? Someone told me about you looking like a flasher and wearing trench coats to the track in the summer.

Is that true?


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