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the_fat_man 07-01-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Revidere
Harsh words!!! You fail to mention that if this was the 70's Saez would have been swimming in the lake by the time they got through with him.

Face it. Garcia rode a brilliant race. If I owned a nag, I'd want to see that instead of opening up a red carpet for another jock. It's a Grade 1, not Mr's Smithers finishing school.


Really? I thought the objective was to try to win the race for YOUR horse. Not to AID or HINDER another. Isn't that really what they have stewards for?

And how did Garcia really ride brilliantly? He rode like a PUNK and ASSED out with a ridiculous decision by the stewards. Is that something to laud? Do you want the stewards to continue the insanity?

Well thought out. And this **** only works if you have a bunch of incompetents as the 'ruling' body.

The interesting thing is in a high speed game with reckless participants nobody is immune from bad luck.

the_fat_man 07-01-2008 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I was away all weekend and just catching up now, but why does everything turn gay with you?

I think you need to go back in the IGGY BIN with Fischer and the rest of the idiots cause I can never make any sense of your ****. HEADS UP.

Handicappy 07-02-2008 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
You think they're going to move Never Retreat up in a Grade I race to compensate them for "missing" something that occurred in a maiden race to a first-time starter that McLaughlin saddled for a totally different owner??

Yup. Obviously they included other factors but I am certain that figured into it.

blackthroatedwind 07-02-2008 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy
Yup. Obviously they included other factors but I am certain that figured into it.


That's quite an accusation.

I am certain it had absolutely nothing to do with it and the race from Belmont Day never entered their minds.

ArlJim78 07-02-2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That's quite an accusation.

I am certain it had absolutely nothing to do with it and the race from Belmont Day never entered their minds.

what was in their minds then?

blackthroatedwind 07-02-2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
what was in their minds then?

That Saez fouled the third finisher. Sorry....he did. It is probably reasonable to assume that they believed he did it out of frustration for being race-ridden the entire contest by Garcia....as well as his frustration over his overall trip and subsequent defeat. But, the bottom line is that Saez fouled the other horse.

However, I am not saying I think it was a great decision, and I could easily argue the other side. But, I can offer a likely scenerio as to what they were thinking.

ArlJim78 07-02-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That Saez fouled the third finisher. Sorry....he did. It is probably reasonable to assume that they believed he did it out of frustration for being race-ridden the entire contest by Garcia....as well as his frustration over his overall trip and subsequent defeat. But, the bottom line is that Saez fouled the other horse.

However, I am not saying I think it was a great decision, and I could easily argue the other side. But, I can offer a likely scenerio as to what they were thinking.

that wasn't much of a foul if you ask me, and didn't cost the horse a chance at a better placing.

do you think the call was fair? i don't.

blackthroatedwind 07-02-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
that wasn't much of a foul if you ask me, and didn't cost the horse a chance at a better placing.

do you think the call was fair? i don't.

I told you what I think.

I'm rarely a fan of DQs in general. That shouldn't be a surprise.

Handicappy 07-02-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That's quite an accusation.

I am certain it had absolutely nothing to do with it and the race from Belmont Day never entered their minds.

I know, I know but it is just my opinion. I wasn't surprised with the take down. I could argue the other way as well. Just my opinion.


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