I think there were a lot of smoke and mirrors with his performance Friday.

It was a trip very similar to the one that yielded a 119 Beyer for Commentator and a 118 Beyer for Monterary Jazz - all allowed a free ride on an uncontested lead through very moderate fractions going a middle distance.

i disagree

can we please never ever compare commentator to mint lane

I understand, but when you consider how slow the track was playing I'm not so sure the pace was moderate at all. But, a lot of races during the week were reasonably fast early and slow late so you might be right.

I was comparing similar trips they had - he ran 13 points (7 lengths at that distance) faster than Mint Lane in the two races being compared

ic... now that we are talking about commentator, whats next ? the whitney ?

Please don't encourage him.

His expected pace rival didn't break well - and visually they all appeared well within themselves.

The half mile fraction in an MSW race for fillies an hour earlier went a full second faster to the half mile - but that race did fracture and a 32/1 shot who was last after a half did win. Maybe I'm wrong about the pace being very slow - but that's how it seemed to me on first impression.

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BTW, you must know ? whats next for commentator, a repeat in the whitney ?

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i do disagree.... how can you say are countrys best horse, hands down.... who ships very good and is bred very well for the turf would have no chance ?

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It's tricky. I'm not even sure you can compare the mile and 1 1/16th races so readily. However, I tend to agree with your initial comment the more I think about it, if for no other reason than disagreeing makes the performance even more puzzling. As is, it's a tough one to swallow.

hes no turf god.. he will have one prep to take on the best of the euros..who train /and run on the heavy long turf.. have you noticed any high action when curlin runs......didnt think so

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I dunno how moderate those fractions were.

do we really care about mint lane ? and if hes so good, then what is casino drive ? the best horse in the world ?

Yeah, because that totally has to be the case if Mint Lane turns out to be good. I care about Mint Lane. You don't have to, but considering your tendency to fall in love with every horse that wins a three-year-old stakes, it's interesting that you don't care about a horse that blew a 106 Beyer.

i dont have a tendency... i did not like the horse mint lane beat... i thought he was way overhyped... i feel in love with casino drive, because he was freaky good, and now mint lane was freaky good, so what does that mean for casino drive ?

Casino Drive wasn't "freaky good" and Mint Lane's performance was just "freaky" - possibly an aberration.