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NTamm1215 06-03-2008 09:22 PM

For what it's worth, I think Gio Ponti is the only horse that can even touch Hatta Fort in here. It's encouraging to see Clement bring him back in a stakes race as he is often a bit more conservative, especially with a horse who is eligible for a N2X. He had a brutal trip in the BC Juvy Turf, which is not a revelation at all.

Prussian has been exposed for two of the most unbelievable trips of 2007 in his first two starts. He had no excuse last time out and was run down by a decent horse, but not anything close to what he will face here. It's also about 1000 times easier to wire the Monmouth lawn than it is the Widener. I'd need a much better price than you're going to get to get excited about this guy.

This is a two horse race in my opinion and I certainly think Gio Ponti is capable of winning off the bench.

NT

dalakhani 06-03-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
For what it's worth, I think Gio Ponti is the only horse that can even touch Hatta Fort in here. It's encouraging to see Clement bring him back in a stakes race as he is often a bit more conservative, especially with a horse who is eligible for a N2X. He had a brutal trip in the BC Juvy Turf, which is not a revelation at all.

Prussian has been exposed for two of the most unbelievable trips of 2007 in his first two starts. He had no excuse last time out and was run down by a decent horse, but not anything close to what he will face here. It's also about 1000 times easier to wire the Monmouth lawn than it is the Widener. I'd need a much better price than you're going to get to get excited about this guy.

This is a two horse race in my opinion and I certainly think Gio Ponti is capable of winning off the bench.

NT

That was my pick although i think prussian has a real chance.

NTamm1215 06-03-2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
That was my pick although i think prussian has a real chance.

Oh, don't get me wrong, Prussian has a chance, he is just one of those horses who started his career in such a fashion that he became a public darling that gets pounded in the betting every time he runs.

NT

jcs11204 06-03-2008 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Nistle's Crunch ran again since Churchill Derby weekend? I need to get that horse in my watch list....

hes a nice horse

NTamm1215 06-03-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Nistle's Crunch ran again since Churchill Derby weekend? I need to get that horse in my watch list....

He has not been out since the Crown Royal American Turf.

NT

my miss storm cat 06-06-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Like this horse a lot (and not cause he's a Godolphin runner... liked him when he was still with Channon and kicked Declaration of War's butt at Newmarket last year).

Whatever his odds? Winner. :cool:

Another stellar pick.....

hockey2315 06-06-2008 05:27 PM

Kind of a strange ride. . . moved way too soon but it looked like he may have been rank. . . wasn't beating the winner, though.


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