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Split Rock 05-02-2008 02:08 PM

1st: #4 COURT VISION
2nd: #8 VISIONAIRRE
3rd: #16 DENIS OF CORK
4th: #6 Z FORTUNE
5th: #9 PYRO
...
14th: #20 BIG BROWN

Trump99 05-02-2008 05:57 PM

Colonel John
Monba Denis of Cork Court Vision

3kings 05-02-2008 06:25 PM

Colonel John
Pyro
Dennis of Cork
Monba
Z Fortune

2MinsToPost 05-02-2008 07:09 PM

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Eight Belles, Z Fortune, Colonel John, Monba and Gayego

My Exacta and Tri Boxes

Don't overlook Monba 11/24/07 race at Churchill from the 11 post.

Don't overlook Gayego in the Ark Derby.

Juicy odds on both.

sirbarton 05-02-2008 07:13 PM

Monba (also have him in Pool two), along with Denis, Col J, and Court Vision.
(Wow! Thunder just shook the whole d*mn house).

MaTH716 05-02-2008 07:21 PM

No order yet
Z Fortune
Court Vision
Pyro
Col. John

and somehow work Cool Coal Man in as well.

my miss storm cat 05-02-2008 07:25 PM

Smooth Air
Gayego
Eight Belles
Col. John

westcoastinvader 05-02-2008 07:25 PM

Just so I'm not noted as a redboarder on Saturday evening, I'll share that I'm planning to put Anak Nakal in my combo's, though I haven't determined exactly how yet.

I don't think I've seen him mentioned here yet.

Obviously it's a selection based on good racing luck over bad racing luck, but he's won a Grade II stakes over this surface before, and looked to be improving in his last race. He's come out of the outside of the gate his last three starts, and I'm banking on Bejarano being able to get him in pretty good position out of the 3 hole here. Also banking on Bejarano getting more out of him than his last couple riders.

Port Conway Lane 05-02-2008 07:30 PM

Big Brown
Pyro
Colonel John
Gayego

Chalk rules

justindew 05-02-2008 07:48 PM

Gayego
Monba
Visionaire

Stall Mucker 05-02-2008 08:23 PM

Pyro
Adriano
Denis of Cork
Court Vision
Eight Belles/Colonel John

I'd like to see the filly hit the board. Colonel John is un-proven on dirt. His work at CD might have been over the top.

randallscott35 05-03-2008 12:11 AM

As I go through 70 posts in this thread so far I see no one with Cowboy Cal in their Top 4...I've liked this horse for a couple of weeks and think he can we win the race.

If you look at his pattern it is tremendous coming back to his 2 yr old top on the turf. Mind you in that same race at Laurel he ran a 3 on the turf. Barbaro in that same race ran awesome and got a 4. He just matched that 3 in the Blue Grass and ran a great race every step of the way. I don't think he is a need the lead type like everyone else. He has inherited the lead in a few of his races and hasn't given me the look on a rank front runner at all. His top race as a two year old he wasn't in the first flight of horses....A Giants Causeway out of a Seeking the Gold Mare can't dirt?....I take the works in the weeks leading up with a grain of salt. Important sure but I never want to be talked on or off simply from a work when a horse has a history....That being said, if you could give me one horse based on a work from the past 2 weeks it is Cowboy Cal. Easily the best work I saw...but I know, I know, it was on the Poly....True enough.

1. Cowboy Cal
2. Eight Belles
3. Pyro
4. Big Brown

Cajungator26 05-03-2008 07:32 AM

Holy cow ... a Randall sighting. :D

King Glorious 05-03-2008 08:27 AM

1. Big Brown
2. Colonel John
3. Eight Belles
4. Court Vision

Slewstoo 05-03-2008 08:29 AM

1. Pyro
2. Court Vision
3. Big Brown
4. Colonel John

brianwspencer 05-03-2008 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35
As I go through 70 posts in this thread so far I see no one with Cowboy Cal in their Top 4...I've liked this horse for a couple of weeks and think he can we win the race.

If you look at his pattern it is tremendous coming back to his 2 yr old top on the turf. Mind you in that same race at Laurel he ran a 3 on the turf. Barbaro in that same race ran awesome and got a 4. He just matched that 3 in the Blue Grass and ran a great race every step of the way. I don't think he is a need the lead type like everyone else. He has inherited the lead in a few of his races and hasn't given me the look on a rank front runner at all. His top race as a two year old he wasn't in the first flight of horses....A Giants Causeway out of a Seeking the Gold Mare can't dirt?....I take the works in the weeks leading up with a grain of salt. Important sure but I never want to be talked on or off simply from a work when a horse has a history....That being said, if you could give me one horse based on a work from the past 2 weeks it is Cowboy Cal. Easily the best work I saw...but I know, I know, it was on the Poly....True enough.

1. Cowboy Cal
2. Eight Belles
3. Pyro
4. Big Brown

I hope you're right :D

I still think he's going to get one of the very best trips in the whole race, it'll just be whether or not he's good enough. We'll see.

Storm Cadet 05-03-2008 09:03 AM

1. Pyro
2. Big Brown
3. Tale of Ekati
4. Col John

Mike 05-03-2008 09:12 AM

Denis of Cork will win, mainly because he'll drop back at the start with Borel, and will deftly avoid the carnage on the first turn. With so many speed horses crossing over, in the slop, amidst the thunder and lightning, I fear the worst catastrophe in Kentucky Derby history:(

Coach Pants 05-03-2008 09:13 AM

My sane friends on this message board..

Can't you see the error of your ways? Look at the post above me. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!

brianwspencer 05-03-2008 09:34 AM

Well, like last year, I went through and added all this up.

I used the same 5-3-2-1 format that got us the Derby exacta last year to calculate it.

Side notes: For those like Jamie, who can't seem to just pick four horses, I split the 1 point between your fourth and fifth horse. For those who said they were going to use these X number of horses but were unsure of the order, I split the 11 points evenly between the horses you listed, rounded to the quarter point. For those who listed nearly half of the field, I ignored you.

And I got this:

Colonel John: 90.25
Pyro: 75.5
Big Brown: 54
Denis of Cork: 40
Z Fortune: 35.5
Court Vision: 33.5
Visionaire: 25
Monba: 24
Eight Belles: 23.25
Smooth Air: 19.5
Gayego: 18.5
Tale of Ekati: 12
Cool Coal Man: 9
Bob Black Jack: 6
Z Humor: 6
Recapturetheglory: 6
Cowboy Cal: 5
Big Truck:4.5
Adriano: 3
Anak Nakal:0


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