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miraja2 03-27-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I don't think that proved much of anything about who was the better horse.
SS sired many excellent turf horses...but him being such a great turf sire shouldn't have come as a big shock, as his sire Halo was a Grade 1 winner on turf and his dam Wishing Well moved way up on turf and went from a claimer to a multiple Graded Stakes winner.

Of course not. I never suggested that it did.

RolloTomasi 03-27-2008 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bystander
Your fly's open.

By the end, he was left with nothing but a deformed claw...and had to rely on Cub Scouts to feed him...

ArlJim78 03-27-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bystander
Your Seinfeld-savant skills are truly wasted here, Mr. Tomasi.

he'll have to do better than that I'm afraid.

Wilhelm says "my name is Tonya", not "Tina"

its as if you have no business skills whatsoever.

well I'm just trying to get ahead.

RolloTomasi 03-27-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
While I strenuously disagree with the notion that the so-called "evidence" in this matter has ANY validity whatsoever, I assure you that Steve isn't just making this up on the spot. Nor he is in any way alone in making this argument.
For nearly two decades the conspiracy-theorists (who curiously all seem to hail from one state) have been arguing that the Belmont Stakes was the only meeting between these two horses in which Harthill couldn't administer some nefarious substance to Sunday Silence. Basically the argument goes that Whittingham was a despicable cheater who was prevented from cheating in this one race by the tremendous barn-security that exists - apparently - "only in New York."

Thanks. I never knew there was that much talk. Shocking that the beloved Alex Harthill was involved in the story. Personally, I'm still waiting for the DRF to add vet stats to its PPs. I'm sure NY's Doc Cheney and his young Vader-like protege, Dr. Allday used only Jedi holistic powers to maintain the Phipps Empire....er...I mean...Stable...

RolloTomasi 03-27-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
he'll have to do better than that I'm afraid.

Wilhelm says "my name is Tonya", not "Tina"

its as if you have no business skills whatsoever.

well I'm just trying to get ahead.

What's my name?

....uhhh......Mulva?

ArlJim78 03-27-2008 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
What's my name?

....uhhh......Mulva?

I prefer to be called maestro.

miraja2 03-27-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Thanks. I never knew there was that much talk. Shocking that the beloved Alex Harthill was involved in the story. Personally, I'm still waiting for the DRF to add vet stats to its PPs. I'm sure NY's Doc Cheney and his young Vader-like protege, Dr. Allday used only Jedi holistic powers to maintain the Phipps Empire....er...I mean...Stable...

Yeah, there have always been a lot of allegations.
Are they legitimate? As I said before, I don't think so, but there are a lot of smart and informed people (like Steve apparently) that disagree.
Basically, I have always been such a huge fan of Sunday Silence, that I am not really sure how unbiased my opinion in this matter can really be.

RolloTomasi 03-27-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I prefer to be called maestro.

So he told you to put the balm on...and you DO IT?!

JJP 03-27-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Oh, let's go ahead and get into it. :D
Easy Goer was one hell of a horse. There is no question about it.
That being said, the better horse won three out of four in that series. Not even nearly twenty years of New York-biased whining coupled with accusations of questionable merit can change that fact.

You are right on with that last comment. Yeah EG beat SS big at 1 1/2 miles, but at 1 1/2 miles, who cares? Its an irrelevant distance in American dirt racing. But I'm sure I'll get criticized for agreeing with you on this; and it is an East Coast dominated board.

miraja2 03-27-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
You are right on with that last comment. Yeah EG beat SS big at 1 1/2 miles, but at 1 1/2 miles, who cares? Its an irrelevant distance in American dirt racing. But I'm sure I'll get criticized for agreeing with you on this; and it is an East Coast dominated board.

Nothing wrong with the East Coast. I lived in NYC for three years and loved every minute of it. I just think that on this one issue, where there was a great NY horse and a great Cali-horse with a great rivalry, some people still just have trouble granting Sunday Silence his due credit.
I also don't know that I would call 12f an "irrelevant distance."

Cajungator26 03-27-2008 09:41 PM

Jezuztapdancingchrist, Hossy...

Please change your avatar. :rolleyes:

IrishofNDMan 03-27-2008 11:38 PM

what is the avatar all about?

10 pnt move up 03-28-2008 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
If Stew Elliot and the '05 version of Mike Smith can win in back-to-back years - just about anyone can if they have the right horse.

you know, I have had just about enough of you....Smith took Giacomo to a derby win....think about that for a minute, Giacomo for christs sake, not Spectactular Bid, that should get you in the hall of fame alone.

ArlJim78 03-28-2008 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
So he told you to put the balm on...and you DO IT?!

serenity now!

Indian Charlie 03-28-2008 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
you know, I have had just about enough of you....Smith took Giacomo to a derby win....think about that for a minute, Giacomo for christs sake, not Spectactular Bid, that should get you in the hall of fame alone.

Oh dear God, do you realize what you just did?

The Bid 03-28-2008 01:23 AM

Used Mike Smith and Spectacular Bid in the same sentence? Tragic

docicu3 03-28-2008 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Jezuztapdancingchrist, Hossy...

Please change your avatar. :rolleyes:


I was waiting for someone to bust on harnessass....but the most interesting moment in this thread was the SS doping Byk Bomb which clearly deserves an explanation even by PM (hint hint!!!). Watching EG and SS go after each other brought me into this game......if it was all BarryBondslike I am gonna have to take a pistol to........nevermind!!

Rudeboyelvis 03-28-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That's my boy Warran. He's a baller.

You know you all love his "huge bombs" and "pool shots" :eek: :rolleyes:

I vote for keeping the Avatar, Hoss :cool:


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