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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I think it's illogical to ignore the horse's style,and duel on the lead(he has failed 3 times, atleast, with this method.) The horse can win at this same level in a couple weeks.Makes no sense to talk about his chances yesterday,because she put him in a position he doesn't like (dueling.)I flatly disagree with anybody who ignores a horse's style ,and thinks they are gunna run some figure no matter where they are placed in a race.I guess if we were all such believers in figures then we would have gone with the 1st 2 horses you had rated.They are out of form,but hey,they got hi figures.

wouldn't have been any worse off than your in-form horse, in fact my top horse beat your touted inform selection. should you really be talking smack when your horse ran out?

the horses style can mean a lot, but it doesn't mean that the horse will win against just anyone.

Previously at HW this horse raced with the same kind of pace style as yesterday and performed well albeit at a lower class rating. the races at Hollywood were fast paced and the horse held up well. the horse will come back with some class relief and will be okay.
I'm done, as this is pointless.

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Jim, whats really laughable is your inability to recognize what a poor ride that was. Take it for what it was, a horribly disgraceful finish, or lack thereof, a misjudged wire, a misjudged measure, and a total display of incompetence. In this case Talamoses incompetence as a rider is equal to your incompetence to understand what really happened.

it was a close finish, thats all. you overestimate what effect the rider can have on the outcome in the final half second of a race, and you let your annoyance with losing clould your opinions. you way over reacted.
its a badge of honor to know that you feel I'm incompetent. I'd be concerned if I knew you felt otherwise.

No thats not all. That may be all you see because you dont know what you are looking at.

He rode the horse home like he was going to win by 3, instead he lost by 3 inches. Had he ridden the horse through the wire he would have won by a neck. He was wrapped up at the 16th pole, as soon as he drew onto even terms. The ride he gave rivals Dedumbeaux standing up at the 16th pole at Keeneland