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Mortimer 10-19-2007 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nomad
You're doing a good job.

Oh yes.


The Good Lord knows I've always admired Steve's fine work.





Speaking of fine work,Steve.......I want to run just a short test of my BCC Analysis as we have switched from a trash can to a shredding machine.


So if ya don't mind......












Lawyer Ron.

Judge Judy.




WHIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR







Hard Spun.



Depth challenged.

Congaree.

And what have you.









WHIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR












Thanks Steve.


Work good.

Cajungator26 10-19-2007 01:22 PM

Morty?

Mortimer 10-19-2007 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Morty?


Whatty?

avance2000 10-19-2007 05:19 PM

i think ags will be the value here cause the $$ will go on the big names.
im betting on him.
i just wish invasor was still around to crush these upstarts the way he crushed frauderdini last year.

Travis Stone 10-19-2007 05:21 PM

Invasor was going to be here this year. It's unfortunate we're not seeing him because of an injury, as opposed the usual ones that retire at 3-years-old. That makes it worse, cause he was an awesome horse.

Cajungator26 10-19-2007 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Avance, I don't remember you ever mentioning it. Did you bet Invasor last year?

LOL

I did, I did! :D

Kasept 10-22-2007 03:33 AM

Tiago Classic Hollywood Park 7 furlongs 1.25:00
Awesome Gem Classic Hollywood Park 6 furlongs 1.12:80
Any Given Saturday Classic Belmont Park 5 furlongs 1.02:12
Lawyer Ron Classic Belmont Park 5 furlongs 1.01:26

alysheba4 10-22-2007 12:14 PM

i know alot of folks dont give tiago any credit, but he is going to run a HUGE race.

Cajungator26 10-22-2007 12:20 PM

Hard Spun...

geeker2 10-22-2007 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4
i know alot of folks dont give tiago any credit, but he is going to run a HUGE race.

Trainer says horse is doing great and if Shirreffs thinks the horse can improve - I'm a believer.

He will be on my ticket - maybe at the top...as a huge value play...

ArlJim78 10-22-2007 01:35 PM

I'm not getting the Tiago enthusiasm. to me none of his races seem of the level that it would take to win this. you can say he might improve, but i'm not willing to assume that kind of improvement all of a sudden. he nosed Awesome Gem who was beat by Student Council who is skipping this race.

Scav 10-22-2007 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I'm not getting the Tiago enthusiasm. to me none of his races seem of the level that it would take to win this. you can say he might improve, but i'm not willing to assume that kind of improvement all of a sudden. he nosed Awesome Gem who was beat by Student Council who is skipping this race.

agree, he is slow as slow is.....(in regards to everyone else in the race, he is going to have to make up 10-12 lengths on a horse like Curlin, who will improve, not going to happen

geeker2 10-22-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
agree, he is slow as slow is.....(in regards to everyone else in the race, he is going to have to make up 10-12 lengths on a horse like Curlin, who will improve, not going to happen


Exacta or Tri ? hall of fame jockey in the irons :D

miraja2 10-22-2007 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Exacta or Tri ? hall of fame jockey in the irons :D

I don't think it makes a big difference who is in the irons.
IF Tiago takes a step forward, he MIGHT finish 3rd or 4th, but I see no scenario in which that horse is in the exacta. He is a nice horse, but there are five horses in the race that are - on paper - simply better than him, and there is no factor that stands out as a reason why that would change on Saturday.
For me he is for filling out the bottom of exotics only.

brianwspencer 10-23-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I don't think it makes a big difference who is in the irons.
IF Tiago takes a step forward, he MIGHT finish 3rd or 4th, but I see no scenario in which that horse is in the exacta. He is a nice horse, but there are five horses in the race that are - on paper - simply better than him, and there is no factor that stands out as a reason why that would change on Saturday.
For me he is for filling out the bottom of exotics only.

The horse just seems too slow to factor in for any meaningful placing. I think you're totally spot on in thinking that with a step forward from where he's at now -- he MAY have a shot to crack the super -- but given that nearly all of the entrants are faster than he is, and that Monmouth is going to play against his type given he has no discernibly noticeable turn of foot, he seems up against it.

whodey17 10-23-2007 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
The horse just seems too slow to factor in for any meaningful placing. I think you're totally spot on in thinking that with a step forward from where he's at now -- he MAY have a shot to crack the super -- but given that nearly all of the entrants are faster than he is, and that Monmouth is going to play against his type given he has no discernibly noticeable turn of foot, he seems up against it.

I have to agree. I thought he might be a viable longshot, but I was completely wrong. Like you have said, he is simply too slow. With the absence of a speed duel, he is really up against it for even a 3rd or 4th place finish.

johnny pinwheel 10-25-2007 11:35 AM

i agree . lawyer ron has not raced well at the 10f. i like hardspun. loved the haskell run off the triple crown. the cut back and the win over street sense. its all systems go at 8 or 9 to 1!

otisotisotis 10-27-2007 12:31 AM

no hard spun, street sense
that was an unfair match race
curlin, oh curlin

NoChanceToDance 10-27-2007 10:35 AM

Dylan Thomas is out to 3/2 over here no. The major betting firms forecast him going off at 7/4 - 15/8 (if he makes the line up)


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