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SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2007 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Foxy Lady (1) a stewards' scratch from the nightcap!

Would have run 2nd by a frito(I know it.)

Rootdog1 10-17-2007 06:29 PM

I like the "Hold That Tiger" offspring Exacta in the 8th

$1 Tri Box 6/10/11/7

Rootdog1 10-17-2007 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
I like the "Hold That Tiger" offspring Exacta in the 8th

$1 Tri Box 6/10/11/7

Wooo-Hooo!!!! Only hit of the freakin day

TitanSooner 10-17-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
I like the "Hold That Tiger" offspring Exacta in the 8th

$1 Tri Box 6/10/11/7

you're money

ArlJim78 10-17-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
Wooo-Hooo!!!! Only hit of the freakin day

i had the same idea, keyed the 10 first and second and landed a small super.
what a brutal day.

Kasept 10-17-2007 06:47 PM

$211,000

SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2007 07:07 PM

I can see singling the last race,and going all in the 5th(with the rail out....it's a catshit foodfight...farce.)The problem is that you gotta get that 7 horse in the 6th.That's a need the lead horse(if ever there was one,) and it's impossible to predict that lone lead today.It's criminal....Same as a thug shoplifting.

Kasept 10-17-2007 07:08 PM

Winners!
 
Congrats to Cassie and ArlJim on 5/6 ticks... Both win t-shirts...

Bonus t-shirt to Pete Mugg as the ONLY player to have the kooky 4 in the 5th race!!

Great effort by all on a murderous series.. Hope those that tried the multi-ticket approach felt it was a worthwhile effort.

Carryover at BEL tomorrow if anyone is hungry for more!

Thanks to all...

ArlJim78 10-17-2007 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Congrats to Cassie and ArlJim on 5/6 ticks...

nope not me, i only had four.

Kasept 10-17-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
nope not me, i only had four.

$2 Pick-6

4,5 / 4,9 / 4 / 7 / 8 / 11

5 of 6 $755.00

Jim,

Guess you ammended after the 9 scratched, but the 4 went off favored so the original play as posted pays 5/6...

philcski 10-17-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Congrats to Cassie and ArlJim on 5/6 ticks... Both win t-shirts...

Bonus t-shirt to Pete Mugg as the ONLY player to have the kooky 4 in the 5th race!!

Great effort by all on a murderous series.. Hope those that tried the multi-ticket approach felt it was a worthwhile effort.

Carryover at BEL tomorrow if anyone is hungry for more!

Thanks to all...

Hit 5/6 3 times for real money. Missed the 4... and almost used him. Had I gotten in the jockey's heads and known they would go 1:14 to the 6F... :confused:
Multi ticket approach is the way to go, especially on days like the BC people!!!

philcski 10-17-2007 08:01 PM

Just watched the replay of that race... wish I hadn't. :mad:

SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2007 08:05 PM

O.K., I am going back to Sports threads etc. Trust me,if you play these things,don't logically cap all 6 races.Cap 4,and figure they are gunna give out an unexpected lone lead,or some other b.s. advantage to whoever they see fit to give it to.You can't cap them all.If you did,then McNasty would be a decent capping pick in that 6th,and he would have won an honestly run race.There is a couple million up for grabs,and if you think they are gunna run all these 6 races honestly,then you will not win. It doesn't work to cap all 6.They read the form,and they gunna do shananigans in usually 2 of the 6 races.Maybe they intend to throw one,and having the rail out on the turf is just asking for crap to come in.You had better think opposite of that form for 2 races,because that's what these jocks are gunna make happen.If there are 3 horses that have speed(and have to get clear to win their races,)then in the 1st quarter mile only one will show speed.In the 2nd quarter mile the other speeds will make it look like they want to pressure it.Now.......STOP!!Watch closely,and see how they get up maybe close,but they never actually get to the horse.They make you think they want to get to that horse...they don't want to get to him.McNasty look like to you he was gunna catch that horse? It's an illusion.The horse who was supposed to win that race won that race.They know that horse will keep running if he clears...They let him clear...voila.....It's not complicated.There is money up for grabs,and they are gunna do opposite of logical capping.One or 2 races are gunna be this way(especially with a big pot.)If you simply remember that the carpet is gunna get pulled out from under people who cap hard,then you will win.They know exactly what the capper thinks should happen,and they are gunna do the opposite(in 1 or 2 legs.) This is real life,and that's what they are doing out there.You have to bet like they think,and the way they think is to do the exact opposite of what that form says(for atleast one of the 6 legs.)

pmacdaddy 10-17-2007 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
O.K., I am going back to Sports threads etc. Trust me,if you play these things,don't logically cap all 6 races.Cap 4,and figure they are gunna give out an unexpected lone lead,or some other b.s. advantage to whoever they see fit to give it to.You can't cap them all.If you did,then McNasty would be a decent capping pick in that 6th,and he would have won an honestly run race.There is a couple million up for grabs,and if you think they are gunna run all these 6 races honestly,then you will not win. It doesn't work to cap all 6.They read the form,and they gunna do shananigans in usually 2 of the 6 races.Maybe they intend to throw one,and having the rail out on the turf is just asking for crap to come in.You had better think opposite of that form for 2 races,because that's what these jocks are gunna make happen.If there are 3 horses that have speed(and have to get clear to win their races,)then in the 1st quarter mile only one will show speed.In the 2nd quarter mile the other speeds will make it look like they want to pressure it.Now.......STOP!!Watch closely,and see how they get up maybe close,but they never actually get to the horse.They make you think they want to get to that horse...they don't want to get to him.McNasty look like to you he was gunna catch that horse? It's an illusion.The horse who was supposed to win that race won that race.They know that horse will keep running if he clears...They let him clear...voila.....It's not complicated.There is money up for grabs,and they are gunna do opposite of logical capping.One or 2 races are gunna be this way(especially with a big pot.)If you simply remember that the carpet is gunna get pulled out from under people who cap hard,then you will win.They know exactly what the capper thinks should happen,and they are gunna do the opposite(in 1 or 2 legs.) This is real life,and that's what they are doing out there.You have to bet like they think,and the way they think is to do the exact opposite of what that form says(for atleast one of the 6 legs.)

Are you saying "somebody" fixed the pick6?

Scav 10-17-2007 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Are you saying "somebody" fixed the pick6?

Let Scuds go, it is like when an elephant gets loose from the zoo, don't try and stop him :)

ArlJim78 10-17-2007 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
O.K., I am going back to Sports threads etc. Trust me,if you play these things,don't logically cap all 6 races.Cap 4,and figure they are gunna give out an unexpected lone lead,or some other b.s. advantage to whoever they see fit to give it to.You can't cap them all.If you did,then McNasty would be a decent capping pick in that 6th,and he would have won an honestly run race.There is a couple million up for grabs,and if you think they are gunna run all these 6 races honestly,then you will not win. It doesn't work to cap all 6.They read the form,and they gunna do shananigans in usually 2 of the 6 races.Maybe they intend to throw one,and having the rail out on the turf is just asking for crap to come in.You had better think opposite of that form for 2 races,because that's what these jocks are gunna make happen.If there are 3 horses that have speed(and have to get clear to win their races,)then in the 1st quarter mile only one will show speed.In the 2nd quarter mile the other speeds will make it look like they want to pressure it.Now.......STOP!!Watch closely,and see how they get up maybe close,but they never actually get to the horse.They make you think they want to get to that horse...they don't want to get to him.McNasty look like to you he was gunna catch that horse? It's an illusion.The horse who was supposed to win that race won that race.They know that horse will keep running if he clears...They let him clear...voila.....It's not complicated.There is money up for grabs,and they are gunna do opposite of logical capping.One or 2 races are gunna be this way(especially with a big pot.)If you simply remember that the carpet is gunna get pulled out from under people who cap hard,then you will win.They know exactly what the capper thinks should happen,and they are gunna do the opposite(in 1 or 2 legs.) This is real life,and that's what they are doing out there.You have to bet like they think,and the way they think is to do the exact opposite of what that form says(for atleast one of the 6 legs.)

who are THEY, and do you think THEY conspired to hit the pk6 and the the reason McNasty didn't win is because he wasn't supposed to? I guess THEY were also so clever that THEY knew Shootist would win by a head and Currency Trader by a neck. what are you smoking?

SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
who are THEY, and do you think THEY conspired to hit the pk6 and the the reason McNasty didn't win is because he wasn't supposed to? I guess THEY were also so clever that THEY knew Shootist would win by a head and Currency Trader by a neck. what are you smoking?

I have been watching horses for over 25 years,and yes,these jocks throw some races(that 6th race today was a thrown race.) He was the horse they wanted to win the race.The they is the jocks involved with not going with this horse out of the gate.So incredible how people just accept the absurd.There is plenty of speed in the race,and yet this horse gets no pressure at all until after the 1st quarter...none...You want to laugh at me,but the facts are the facts.I laugh at those who think that was a legit run race.You would need to be a true addict to think that was a legit run race.There are atleast 3 horses in there that don't win unless they are very close to the lead.So,when you see only one speed horse show up it's not an accident.It's golden to them.To know who is gunna clear? That's money to them.If you want to continue to believe that there was just one speed horse in that race,then fine,but I doubt you thought that before.You have carved out that new view,because you want to believe it's a fair race.It was a fake race,and if you wanna live in fantasyland,you can.

2Hot4TV 10-17-2007 09:20 PM

QUE????? Boat races everyday at my beloved Santa Anita?

TitanSooner 10-18-2007 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I have been watching horses for over 25 years,and yes,these jocks throw some races(that 6th race today was a thrown race.) He was the horse they wanted to win the race.The they is the jocks involved with not going with this horse out of the gate.So incredible how people just accept the absurd.There is plenty of speed in the race,and yet this horse gets no pressure at all until after the 1st quarter...none...You want to laugh at me,but the facts are the facts.I laugh at those who think that was a legit run race.You would need to be a true addict to think that was a legit run race.There are atleast 3 horses in there that don't win unless they are very close to the lead.So,when you see only one speed horse show up it's not an accident.It's golden to them.To know who is gunna clear? That's money to them.If you want to continue to believe that there was just one speed horse in that race,then fine,but I doubt you thought that before.You have carved out that new view,because you want to believe it's a fair race.It was a fake race,and if you wanna live in fantasyland,you can.



On CJ's numbers, not only did this horse have the high early speed fig, but the top race out for the last 3 races..

Not saying race fixing doesn't happen, I just don't believe it happened here.

philcski 10-18-2007 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I have been watching horses for over 25 years,and yes,these jocks throw some races(that 6th race today was a thrown race.) He was the horse they wanted to win the race.The they is the jocks involved with not going with this horse out of the gate.So incredible how people just accept the absurd.There is plenty of speed in the race,and yet this horse gets no pressure at all until after the 1st quarter...none...You want to laugh at me,but the facts are the facts.I laugh at those who think that was a legit run race.You would need to be a true addict to think that was a legit run race.There are atleast 3 horses in there that don't win unless they are very close to the lead.So,when you see only one speed horse show up it's not an accident.It's golden to them.To know who is gunna clear? That's money to them.If you want to continue to believe that there was just one speed horse in that race,then fine,but I doubt you thought that before.You have carved out that new view,because you want to believe it's a fair race.It was a fake race,and if you wanna live in fantasyland,you can.

The P6 paid FIVE TIMES the parlay value yesterday. Don't you think there would have been more winners if it truly had been rigged?

Currency Trader figured to get the lead as he had much the highest pace figs. I didn't like the horse as he's a confirmed quitter but used him anyways given he might get away with it at every call. Just because there's a lot of 1's in the other horses' running lines doesn't mean they were fast enough to catch him, c'mon, you know that.


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