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Cannon Shell 10-11-2007 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Yes...I would have done this thing long before the reg. season ended.


I'm not sure where all of this numbers come from or how they are calculated.

The guy was horrible last year and even Wegde and Shapiro admitted that.



They got him up a little for this season......but you can't go from horrible to above average...can you? I see a sub par ss.....who also loves to lead or be near the top in so's.

I'd have Sizemore in left field,too, and Frank G. in center since he is by the overwhelming majority of Indians thinkers thier very best def. outfielder and a natural cf guy.Maybe runners will stop flying from first to thrid with great fequency then.

I happen to think def. first in any sport...and up the mid. def. in bb is very important in my mind.





I saw most of the Yankee series....if you can't see his deficiencies displayed in that series...then I'll say you win this one.
Does Peralta make more routine plays close and more close plays base hits by seemingly being in slow motion once he gets to the ball and his release? Seems like he plays every ground ball the same regardless of who is running or regardless of where he fields the ball.

Cannon Shell 10-11-2007 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ARyan
Maybe because its the playoffs and he disappears...

How many homers and RBI's in April and May really matter? You tell me the last home run in April that carried a team to a playoff win...

I think ARod is #3, no way I would put him above Pujols or Ortiz.
I think April wins count the same in the standings as September wins.

Cannon Shell 10-11-2007 06:30 PM
You know Arod would be a good fit in Cleveland...

ARyan 10-11-2007 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I think April wins count the same in the standings as September wins.
I think the wins in July count the most, but thats just me.

Honestly, do you really think a win against the Royals in April is as important as a win against a divisional rival, fighting for a playoff spot in September?

The Mets, this season, would have gladly won a big game in September. You can always make up for a loss in April in any of the remaining months. You don't have much time to make up a few key losses in September.

Mortimer 10-11-2007 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Does Peralta make more routine plays close and more close plays base hits by seemingly being in slow motion once he gets to the ball and his release? Seems like he plays every ground ball the same regardless of who is running or regardless of where he fields the ball.

Yes he does.

That's him....everything is slow.....even when he actually gets to a ball.He does turn the dp well and has an above average arm...but his range and quickness just aren't there. Sometimes he'll go left and get there,but he can't bend down far enough to get the ball! NOT KIDDING!


My bet is he won't be here next year. Shapiro himself said he's seen him play 3rd in the minors.....it wasn' pretty.

Cannon Shell 10-11-2007 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ARyan
I think the wins in July count the most, but thats just me.

Honestly, do you really think a win against the Royals in April is as important as a win against a divisional rival, fighting for a playoff spot in September?

The Mets, this season, would have gladly won a big game in September. You can always make up for a loss in April in any of the remaining months. You don't have much time to make up a few key losses in September.
A win is a win is a win. They all count for 1.

whodey17 10-11-2007 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ARyan
I think the wins in July count the most, but thats just me.

Honestly, do you really think a win against the Royals in April is as important as a win against a divisional rival, fighting for a playoff spot in September?

The Mets, this season, would have gladly won a big game in September. You can always make up for a loss in April in any of the remaining months. You don't have much time to make up a few key losses in September.
If you win in April and May then maybe you wont need to win as much in Sept. Each months wins are very important. To say a win in Sept is as important as a win in April is silly to me.

ARyan 10-11-2007 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by whodey17
If you win in April and May then maybe you wont need to win as much in Sept. Each months wins are very important. To say a win in Sept is as important as a win in April is silly to me.
You are right. I know the Rockies wish they would have had the winning streak they had in April, rather then in September.

ARyan 10-11-2007 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
A win is a win is a win. They all count for 1.
They do, but some are more important then others, you have to agree with that.

Cannon Shell 10-11-2007 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ARyan
You are right. I know the Rockies wish they would have had the winning streak they had in April, rather then in September.
If they won more in april they wouldnt have needed the streak

Cannon Shell 10-11-2007 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ARyan
They do, but some are more important then others, you have to agree with that.
I agree that mentally for a team a win at an important time can be a big win

docicu3 10-11-2007 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You know Arod would be a good fit in Cleveland...


Bite your tongue.......all that team needs is another power hitter and the balance of power would change dramatically

whodey17 10-12-2007 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ARyan
You are right. I know the Rockies wish they would have had the winning streak they had in April, rather then in September.
It took the Rockies 90 wins to clinch the wild card. What makes a difference how those 90 wins were allocated over the season? Perhaps if they won 12 out of 14 in April instead of going 10-16 in that month then they would have pushed for 1st place in their division. Every win and loss counts the same. I do agree that a good win is important for the big "MO."

Mortimer 10-12-2007 03:29 PM
Well..we shall see about tonight...



..HEEEEEERE'S JHONNY!! is back on.

Can't wait.









God.

2 Dollar Bill 10-12-2007 04:49 PM
Check out Manny's numbers against CC...... ! They better not walk Big Papi to pitch to Manny !

Mortimer 10-12-2007 04:51 PM
You forget something...we created "Manny"...and we can destroy him.




Rortiz is going to be striking out funny.

GPK 10-12-2007 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
You forget something...we created "Manny"...and we can destroy him.




Rortiz is going to be striking out funny.


OOOOO.5 bogs

Mortimer 10-12-2007 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
OOOOO.5 bogs


Now you're talkin' !!



Too kind.

GPK 10-12-2007 06:32 PM
Clutch hit in the bottom of the 1st.

GPK 10-13-2007 09:41 PM
Manny = $$$


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