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whodey17 05-23-2007 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I think Idiot Proof (home track, 45 day layoff, two nice 6f works) is gonna break 1:09, and there isn't a horse in here that can do that. It is also important that a horse like this has proven to run well fresh (see easy winner two back off the same type of layoff). While I won't argue with people using the 1 or 6 in this race, I just think that he will be allowed to go 44.8 or 45 and if that happens, the race is over. if they make him go 43.4-44.0 they will have a slim shot

Makes good sense. I dont think there is any horse than can go with Idiot Proof.

letswastemoney 05-23-2007 01:29 AM

Hey is there anyone that likes Kooky Kelly in the 4th? I mean she was caught 4 wide last time in the Skipper Mike race. I think with the improved post position here she'll win.

ArlJim78 05-23-2007 06:00 AM

This is the ticket
 
If I were playing I’d go with a bigger ticket like this, I just don't see obvious places to single with strong conviction. Maybe Idiot Proof and cut the ticket in half. but I just don't trust a horse that looks to have trouble carrying his speed at SA, coming to cushion.

Race 3
3 Our Partner
6 Casual Thunder
7 Rival Islands

Race 4 – going wide enough to snag the winner-anybodies guess here how they run
2- Kooky Kelly
3- Steel Kitten
4- King City Kitty
5- Skipper Mike
6- Warrens Devonlane
7- Stitchit

Race 5 – I am not taken by Unusual Suspect like many are- has class from last year but don’t see any development, still running the same type of race, no turf experience, think this one is overbet and won’t win. Like fresher developing horses with more upside.
5- Yankee Bay
7- Grey Rover
8- Bernasconi

Race 6
4- Dennybuck
1A- Headcoach
10- Weft

Race 7 – I can’t single Idiot Proof because although fast does appear to have distance limitations and with no cushion race exp he may get caught.
4 – Idiot Proof
6 – Shem

Race 8 – Think the winner is one of two horses
3 – Star Quality
5 - O Bee Naki

Play 3 x 6 x 3 x 3 x 2 x 2 x $2 = $1,296

2Hot4TV 05-23-2007 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Thank you very much Root for causing even more problems now

Where is Espinoza, he get days?

Yes Victor is serving 12 days.

Nakatani can't buy a winner now that he has Stevens for an agent.

Joe Talamo isn't all that great like people are talking. SoCal racing is just starving for a good Bug Boy and getting some decent horses to ride.

swedejxn 05-23-2007 08:23 AM

Here's my ticket....

Race 3 7,6
Race 4 2,5
Race 5 1,4,5
Race 6 1,8,10
Race 7 6
Race 8 3,10,5

option is whether or not to toss idiot proof in the 7th

Cheap play

7
2,5
1,4,5
1,8
6
3,5

Good Luck

Scav 05-23-2007 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
Yes Victor is serving 12 days.

Nakatani can't buy a winner now that he has Stevens for an agent.

Joe Talamo isn't all that great like people are talking. SoCal racing is just starving for a good Bug Boy and getting some decent horses to ride.

Stevens got fired by Nak, he is now represented by the guy who represents Court. I expect him to catch fire somewhat soon.

Bigsmc 05-23-2007 10:08 AM

Not the least bit excited about the sequence (but I am excited about the carry), so.....

R3
8 - Surf Town

R4
3 - Steel Kitten
4 - King City Kitty
6 - Warren's Devonlane

R5
2 - Tycoon Doby
3 - Knighthood
4 - Robbos Courage
8 - Bernasconi

R6 - been burned by too many Baffert droppers with speed finishing up the track lately
1A - Headcoach
9 - T.H. Praise
10 - Weft

R7
1 - Pick Vic
4 - Idiot Proof

R8
5 - O Bee Naki

1 x 3 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = $72 x $2 = $144

GL to all.

Scav 05-23-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Not the least bit excited about the sequence (but I am excited about the carry), so.....

R3
8 - Surf Town

R4
3 - Steel Kitten
4 - King City Kitty
6 - Warren's Devonlane

R5
2 - Tycoon Doby
4 - Robbos Courage
6 - Parko
8 - Bernasconi

R6 - been burned by too many Baffert droppers with speed finishing up the track lately
1A - Headcoach
9 - T.H. Praise
10 - Weft

R7
1 - Pick Vic
4 - Idiot Proof

R8
5 - O Bee Naki

1 x 3 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = $72 x $2 = $144

GL to all.

Chicken money...You should take the ticket you won and GO FOR THE GUSTO. $144....COME ON BALLA. Like your ticket, only horse I am not a fan of is Steel Kitten

Late Fires 05-23-2007 11:07 AM

Taking a shot and thinking about mixing it up with three tickets:

Ticket 1: 6,7 / 4,5 / 4,5,6,8 / 1 / 4,6 / 2,5,7
Ticket 2: 3,6,8 / 5 / 2,4,8 / 1 / 4,6 / 3,5
Ticket 3: 6 / 5,6 / 1,3,4 / 1,8 / 4 / 2,3,5,7,10

Pedigree Ann 05-23-2007 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Race 5 – I am not taken by Unusual Suspect like many are- has class from last year but don’t see any development, still running the same type of race, no turf experience, think this one is overbet and won’t win. Like fresher developing horses with more upside.

What? You reading the right PPs? Unusual Suspect won his turf debut at Del Mar last August. He's been a close 4th in two stakes on turf, and second in a G3 on this turf course. And he's an Unusual Heat, whose offspring move up enormously on turf. He had a sprint prep (with a slow early pace) coming off the layoff and is now ready for his best distance.

Bigsmc 05-23-2007 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Chicken money...You should take the ticket you won and GO FOR THE GUSTO. $144....COME ON BALLA. Like your ticket, only horse I am not a fan of is Steel Kitten

Saving the Go For The Gusto for Saratoga. I've been very good since April 28 and am trying to stay that way for 63 more days....

25yr old Bigs would be locked and loaded today. 43yr old Bigs is laying low because as he said in the original post, he's not feeling it, however, he did smile at being called Balla...

Off topic: LOVE Gasconade in Churchill's 9th today.

ArlJim78 05-23-2007 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
What? You reading the right PPs? Unusual Suspect won his turf debut at Del Mar last August. He's been a close 4th in two stakes on turf, and second in a G3 on this turf course. And he's an Unusual Heat, whose offspring move up enormously on turf. He had a sprint prep (with a slow early pace) coming off the layoff and is now ready for his best distance.

i must have been thinking about something else when i said no turf experience. I'm at work now and don't have pp's.

that said i still do not like him whatsoever in here. he'll have to beat me.

-BT- 05-23-2007 12:56 PM

Race 5)

* Can someone please explain to me what im missing when i look at #8 Bernasconi? I have him as the 4th best horse in the race behind the 1-4-2 (Gallagher's other horse) but it seems as though the majority of the PK6 tickets i see have this horse 1st or 2nd. Was the race he came out of that tough and or was the competition tough?

-bt-

Rudeboyelvis 05-23-2007 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT-
Race 5)

* Can someone please explain to me what im missing when i look at #8 Bernasconi? I have him as the 4th best horse in the race behind the 1-4-2 (Gallagher's other horse) but it seems as though the majority of the PK6 tickets i see have this horse 1st or 2nd. Was the race he came out of that tough and or was the competition tough?

-bt-

I'm with ya BT...there's plenty I'd like to use in this leg if the bankroll allowed it, and he's ain't one of 'em.

Edit; While we're on the topic...What with the sudden facination of Warrens Devonlane in the 4th? The 21.4 quarter? the Jock change?

The Bid 05-23-2007 01:07 PM

4-6-7
3-6-10
7-8
1-4-6-8-10
4-6
3-5

Good luck to anyone playing, thats my ticket.

ARyan 05-23-2007 01:43 PM

This is the ticket I came up with, although I will be knocking it down a bit still...

Race 3 : #1, #4, #6, #7
Race 4: #4, #5
Race 5: #1, #2, #4, #8
Race 6: #8, #10
Race 7: #1, #4
Race 8: #5

4 X 2 X 4 X 2 X 2 X 1 = 128 x 2 = $256.

whodey17 05-23-2007 03:01 PM

Five us out in $200 for a total of $1000. We rated the races from hardest to easiest and then gave each horse a grade of A to F. These are our tickets

Ticket 1
8
4-5-8-910
1-4
1-4-5-8-9-10
4
3
$120

Ticket 2
1-8
5
1-4-8
1-4-5-8-9-10
4
3-5-10
$216

Ticket 3
1-3-6-7-8
4-5-8-9-10
1
1-4-5-10
4
3-5-9-10
$640

-BT- 05-23-2007 03:54 PM

Inglewood Jack!!!

let's give this a stab

PK6

28
5 10
148
18
14
357 = $288

gl to all playing this PK6

-bt-

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-23-2007 04:07 PM

20mins out good luck dters.....

pweizer 05-23-2007 04:10 PM

I played two tickets:

1-2-3-6-7-8/2-4-5-6-9-10/8/1-4-8-10/4/5

7/5-9/1-3-4-8/1/1-4-6/3-5-10

I hope many derby trailers bring home the cash.

Paul


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