Well, it beats his posts from last week.

I don't see why anyone has to get a 'rough trip'. HS will probably not get the lead and will have to come from just off the pace. (Is this a rough trip for him? or maybe we could arrange for some DEAD speed types to 'chase' him -- no such luck this time.)

Curlin will sit a bit behind that one and SS will be towards the rear of the pack. HS and Curlin will go at it initially and then SS will put in his run. Of course, with Chelokee in the race (unless he's not going), SS will not have a clear rail run throughout the race. Would that make it a poor trip for him?

All I ask for is to get a clear run, after having good position around the track. I'm assuming Albarado can do that.

Chelokee is unlikely to go in the Preakness.

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I certainly wasn't comparing HS to Holy Bull, but the trip he got in the derby was totally earned and not because of "things going his way".

Drugs, i am in the opinion that a horse who ran in the Derby really is in no need of a breeze between the Derby and the Preakness. I may be in the minority, but if a horse is breezed at all, let it be on the slow side rather than fast.
On the handicapping aspect of the race, i will wait untill posts are drawn, and see if the track will be fast for the race. I love betting against horses who i feel benefited from great trips to easy victories. As a racing fan i wouldn't be dissapointed if SS were to win. But if i do decide to be involved in betting the race i can assure you that i would be betting against SS. I can/t say iv'e made a living off betting against impressive Derby winners, but i have had a lot of luck betting on horses who i thought were compromised in the Derby from showing their true talent.
I am always looking for the next Louise Qutorze, or Gate Dancer, Hansel, or even throwing out a bad trip like Point Given got in the Derby to making a nice score in the Preakness. I wasn't totally sold on Curlin before the Derby, not because of his number of starts, but his lack of experience in facing adversity in a race. I think he now has that experience. I will now wait for the draw of the race, get a feel of how the race may shape up, and if the odds favor a nice bet on Curlin, i will not shy away from making a wager on him based on a slow breeze between the two races...

Congrats on your pick Drugs. I didnt bet to win but played the Million p/4.

Congrats Drugs, your analysis was right one. What a great race.

Congrats? Let's see.... 2nd favorite in the Derby...wins the preakness at 3/1/....wow that's really stickin your neck on the line

many people had a lot to say about this horse. However, he proved himself today. The object is to find the best horse in the race, not about putting your neck on the line. Curlin was the best horse in the race today, he stumbled out the gate, raced in an uncomfortable position, overcame some greeness on the turn, and dug in to win it, I believe in a record time if I heard correctly. This is a very good racehorse and I don't believe we have seen the best of him yet, if we get to see it.

Nevermind the fact I made a lot of money on the race,

But my opinion was that Street Sense would finish a hanging 2nd---and I detailed how I intended to bet the race, that being a backwheel exacta of Curlin and HS on top of SS.

Basically, it was a 6/1 shot.

Thanks---the race didn't exactly go how I wanted it to early on.

I thought Hard Spun was in a little trouble because the pace was very fast, and he was denied his preferred front-running tactics---meanwhile Curlin didn't have as much seperation on Street Sense as I wanted.

I was hoping Curlin could get four or five lengths seperation---and Street Sense would make that monster far turn move to get on ever terms--and obviously Curlin would win the stretch duel.

Street Sense really ran a spectacular race---and I never was certain Curlin could re-rally to catch him until the last jump.

Let's be fair though--as fabulous as SS ran this time out--he did hang through the lane.

No---he ran a great race--no doubt about it.

To me--I liked his effort today a lot better than his performance in the KY Derby---but my handicapping is very slanted to trip oriented handicapping.

not to quibble. but i don't think the hangar label applies when you run a race that fast. Don't shortchange Curlin, it was a HUGE effort to catch Street Sense after he lost position to him earlier in the stretch.
You were right on Curlin etc, but the reason wasn't because Street Sense is some big hanger thats needs his rail trip. I think you were right just because Curlin was the best horse today, but only by a very late nose.

Street Sense blew by him on the far turn and Curlin was in "left-for-dead" fashion.

Of course SS hung---fast time or not. if they took bets on at the 3/16ths pole, Street Sense is 1/20 and Curlin is about 12/1.

did he hang, or was he overtaken by a superior effort?

By any trip handicappers terminology---he made an explosive far turn move, and didn't fully sustain it through the last 1/8th....the grinding Curlin wore him down.

Horses can run spectacularly and still hang.

probably yes. when i hear that he hung in a track record time it makes me crazy. as if there is some objective standard by which we can refer to and it tells us that if Street Sense wasn't a hanger he would have maintained his lead. If that was a hang job then he has hung in every single race he has ever raced in.
In fact the whole field hung other than Curlin.

They slowed down less than Curlin, thats it.