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Kasept 04-23-2007 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
You know ,Steve, I have always been a large admirer of your fine work.

What are your thoughts regarding the 8 weeks for OClay and in general...SamP?..... and also if you have any feelings on lol lol lol.

Thanks in advance.

MDF,

I was worried that there was a 'real' issue with CircQuay when Pletcher passed on the Wood, but his subsequent works say he's fine. The effort in the Louisiana Derby was a huge career best, and the chances of him running back to it with a race in the interim weren't good. Pletcher is well aware of how much time it takes a horse to recover from an effort like that, and I also understand thatr Angel Cordero was pushing to skip the Wood. Basically I'm more concerned about the pace set-up not being to Circular Quay's advantage than I am about the 8 weeks...

Sam P. is a 'nice' horse that really hasn't moved forward at all at three. He was too close to the Santa Anita Derby pace to be effective and think he'll get his run in Derby Day. And remember that Ramon Dominguez rode Bluegrass Cat last year and gets the call on Sam P. I'd guess his best races come later in the year and would say he is a use in the Derby only on the bottom of the widest trifecta and superfecta plays.

As for Lol Lol Lol, the less we say here the better if we expect to pull off the betting coup we are all hoping for with him... her... it...

Mortimer 04-23-2007 08:29 AM

It's amazing to me how much we think alike,Steve.


I appreciate your time here,although I'm not so sure what you said about lol lol lol .We shall see.




Sightseeing is defnitely not running....right?

Kasept 04-23-2007 02:04 PM

Suddenly, Teufelsberg on fence...

With the possible inclusions of Xchanger, Slew's Tizzy and Sedgefield in the Derby, Teufelsberg now sitting 21st...

ALSO.. Chelokee is likely NOT running even if the path were to be cleared for him.. Ran off 2.5 miles over the weekend and has a small hoof issue as well, and Matz does not want to waste or ruin him with a Derby try...

Sedgefield leaning towards a run; Slew's Tizzy appears 50-50; No word on Xchanger as of this afternoon..


Graded Stakes Earnings List (B-H):

1 Street Sense $1,482,000
2 Scat Daddy $1,308,500
3 Circular Quay $1,116,134
4 Curlin $780,000
5 Nobiz Like Shobiz $778,500
6 Great Hunter $752,500
7 Stormello $642,900
8 Dominican $498,484
9 Tiago $450,000
10 Cowtown Cat $437,253
11 Hard Spun $360,000
12 Storm in May $227,500
13 Slew's Tizzy $207,500
14 Zanjero $205,000
15 Xchanger $202,890
16 Any Given Saturday $177,969
17 Liquidity $161,200
18 Cobalt Blue $150,000
19 Sam P. $146,500
20 Sedgefield $127,500
----------------------
21 Teuflesberg $122,942
22 Imawildandcrazyguy $104,000
23 Chelokee $100,000 DOUBTFUL..
24 Reporting for Duty $100,000
25 Starbase $93,106
26 Delightful Kiss $83,000

Buffymommy 04-23-2007 02:09 PM

VERY happy to see Matz doing the right thing by the horse. :) Love him.

I would also love to see Slew's Tizzy take a shot at the Preakness and not run back in two weeks. He is a beauty and I don't want him ruined. I would also like to have them try him on the grass...

Cajungator26 04-23-2007 02:13 PM

Kentucky Derby website updated a bit with more contenders...

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/2007/derby_contenders

I've got to think that Kev will be blowing a few bucks on the full brother to English Channel. :p

Bystander 04-23-2007 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
ALSO.. Chelokee is likely NOT running even if the path were to be cleared for him.. Ran off 2.5 miles over the weekend and has a small hoof issue as well, and Matz does not want to waste or ruin him with a Derby try...

Are you saying he ran off for 2.5 miles, or he galloped 2.5 miles?

FlBred 04-23-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Suddenly, Teufelsberg on fence...

With the possible inclusions of Xchanger, Slew's Tizzy and Sedgefield in the Derby, Teufelsberg now sitting 21st...

ALSO.. Chelokee is likely NOT running even if the path were to be cleared for him.. Ran off 2.5 miles over the weekend and has a small hoof issue as well, and Matz does not want to waste or ruin him with a Derby try...

Sedgefield leaning towards a run; Slew's Tizzy appears 50-50; No word on Xchanger as of this afternoon..


Graded Stakes Earnings List (B-H):

1 Street Sense $1,482,000
2 Scat Daddy $1,308,500
3 Circular Quay $1,116,134
4 Curlin $780,000
5 Nobiz Like Shobiz $778,500
6 Great Hunter $752,500
7 Stormello $642,900
8 Dominican $498,484
9 Tiago $450,000
10 Cowtown Cat $437,253
11 Hard Spun $360,000
12 Storm in May $227,500
13 Slew's Tizzy $207,500
14 Zanjero $205,000
15 Xchanger $202,890
16 Any Given Saturday $177,969
17 Liquidity $161,200
18 Cobalt Blue $150,000
19 Sam P. $146,500
20 Sedgefield $127,500
----------------------
21 Teuflesberg $122,942
22 Imawildandcrazyguy $104,000
23 Chelokee $100,000 DOUBTFUL..
24 Reporting for Duty $100,000
25 Starbase $93,106
26 Delightful Kiss $83,000

This may seem like a real dumb question, but what does it mean when someone states a horse "ran off"? Is this when the jockey is thrown and the horse bolts around the track all out?

Cajungator26 04-23-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FlBred
This may seem like a real dumb question, but what does it mean when someone states a horse "ran off"? Is this when the jockey is thrown and the horse bolts around the track all out?

When a horse runs off, it typically means that the horse was out of control (bit between the teeth.) I'm assuming that's what happened in this case... I can't see Chelokee running loose without a rider for that long without being caught, but I could be wrong. ???

Mortimer 04-23-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag
i don't know who lolol is but tiago is lookin mighty nice to me

Oh my God.






You should take a closer look at lol lol lol then.

Lava 04-23-2007 02:39 PM

Chelokee's rein broke and the ride was not able to stop him

Bystander 04-23-2007 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
Oh my God.

OH my GOD.

Mortimer 04-23-2007 02:48 PM

Is there an echo in here?



What is your primary malfunction,ma'am?

Bystander 04-23-2007 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
Is there an echo in here?



What is your primary malfunction,ma'am?

Nothing, just knew you'd actually respond.

Cajungator26 04-23-2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lava
Chelokee's rein broke and the ride was not able to stop him

Thanks... that must have sucked sitting on him for that kind of ride.

Mortimer 04-23-2007 02:58 PM

Oh.





Try yelling STEVIE!!!!!
It worked for me.

Mortimer 04-23-2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag
i'm gonna look closely at all of them...in 7 days


Like the PPs are going to change??


You're not one of those hung up on post position..are ya?

Cajungator26 04-23-2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
Like the PPs are going to change??


You're not one of those hung up on post position..are ya?

The winner comes out of the 9 hole this year!


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