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SniperSB23 03-29-2007 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
bernardini was a great horse but everyone questioned what he beat going into the classic, everyone was wondering if he could beat really good horses, with discreet cat he has already soundly defeated a champion on his own track, silver train that is, on a track he loved... belmont, i think its totally different to compare the 2.
He beat Silver Train at Aqueduct but good try.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-29-2007 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
Crap only 9/2 on Tap? Grrrr maybe he will go up.
premium tap is another very good horse but he should be more like 8-1 morning line, i think he has a shot to win, but he should not be 9-2 morning line

brianwspencer 03-29-2007 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
He beat Silver Train at Aqueduct but good try.
To the punch....I have been beaten.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-29-2007 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
To the punch....I have been beaten.
yea correct he won the jerome at belmont, but either way silver train is better then anything bernardini ever faced that was the point i was trying to make.

SniperSB23 03-29-2007 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
To the punch....I have been beaten.
You could have added the fact that Silver Train was never a champion, just a BC Sprint winner.

Danzig 03-29-2007 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
yea correct he won the jerome at belmont, but either way silver train is better then anything bernardini ever faced that was the point i was trying to make.
silver train is better then invasor?? you've gotta be kidding me.

SniperSB23 03-29-2007 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
yea correct he won the jerome at belmont, but either way silver train is better then anything bernardini ever faced that was the point i was trying to make.
Spooky Mulder beat Silver Train. Hell, Tani Maru beat Silver Train. Away from Belmont he's not a very good horse. Premium Tap, who Bernardini beat is a much a better horse than Silver Train at a mile at Aqueduct.

brianwspencer 03-29-2007 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
yea correct he won the jerome at belmont, but either way silver train is better then anything bernardini ever faced that was the point i was trying to make.
Oops, my bad, for whatever reason I thought this was your point...

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
he has already soundly defeated a champion on his own track, silver train that is, on a track he loved... belmont.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-29-2007 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
silver train is better then invasor?? you've gotta be kidding me.
up to the classic... dam

breeders cup sprint champion, backed it up winning the met over sun king

Danzig 03-29-2007 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
up to the classic... dam

breeders cup sprint champion, backed it up winning the met over sun king
lol
sorry dude--you sure get hammered on here a lot, don't you?

but i still disagree...silver train wasn't all that, he just liked belmont a LOT.

SniperSB23 03-29-2007 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
up to the classic... dam

breeders cup sprint champion, backed it up winning the met over sun king
OK, so Bernardini has faced less than Discreet Cat going into the showdown against Invasor if that makes you feel better. Of course Bernardini had run at the relevant distance prior to the showdown unlike Discreet Cat. Let's see if Discreet Cat can even beat Premium Tap at 10 furlongs before we worry about him against Invasor.

brockguy 03-29-2007 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
OK, so Bernardini has faced less than Discreet Cat going into the showdown against Invasor if that makes you feel better. Of course Bernardini had run at the relevant distance prior to the showdown unlike Discreet Cat. Let's see if Discreet Cat can even beat Premium Tap at 10 furlongs before we worry about him against Invasor.
at the mo, its DC 1 Invasor 0!!

randallscott35 03-29-2007 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by brockguy
at the mo, its DC 1 Invasor 0!!
Brock, I think that win does mean something especially b/c it wasn't even close. This is DC's home track and he has shown an affinity for it....Just wish DC had a prep. Think he still wins, but it won't be easy.

Cannon Shell 03-29-2007 06:54 PM
Assuming the track plays even, it looks like Discreet Cats race to lose. There is very little pace in here and he should be able to dictate the race from the front end or just off the flank of one of the pretenders. He can run the turns as well as any horse in training and may have a sizable advantage turning for home. If he can get 2400 meters then I see him as the most likely winner.

Rileyoriley 03-29-2007 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
God that was awesome. What a memory. Even though PP had it in the bag. He had already given MDO the ole evil eye.:D Funny thing about that race, I am life long friends with his exercise rider Crystal, our moms have been best friends for over 30yrs. We had a big old breakfast get together at her moms house to watch the race. We were so excited during the race that the phone starts ringing off the hook, it is 2 of the neighbors wanting to know what was the matter and if we needed the police. Seems we were cheering ole PP on just alittle to loudly!:eek: As you can tell by my screename I am alittle partial to him.
Even though MDO was 2nd, I thought it was his best race. My daughter and I were also cheering for Pleasantly Perfect! My neighbors are used to it by now.

ArlJim78 03-29-2007 09:52 PM
I just have this feeling that I will wake up tomorrow and read a headline something like this "Discreet Cat spikes fever - withdrawn from WC"

brianwspencer 03-29-2007 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I just have this feeling that I will wake up tomorrow and read a headline something like this "Discreet Cat spikes fever - withdrawn from WC"
Or perhaps that DC is so far superior to every horse in the field and in the world that he has, in fact, ALREADY won the World Cup by tomorrow morning.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-29-2007 10:00 PM
Order of finish...
"D.C."
INVASOR
PREMIUM TAP

What more can be said???

brianwspencer 03-29-2007 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Order of finish...
"D.C."
INVASOR
PREMIUM TAP

What more can be said???
I obviously think that your winner will come from either DC or Invasor, but Vermilion looks the part to snag a piece too the more I look at it.

randallscott35 03-29-2007 10:05 PM
I think this love for Premium Tap in here is misplaced. How he beats these I don't know. He's an underlaid price anyway.


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