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Cajungator26 03-19-2007 08:35 AM

By the way, I would think that Street Cry is headed in the right direction.

zippyneedsawin 03-19-2007 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
yeah, he'll start off without a prep (norm these days) for the 2000 Guineas.. If he wins that it'll be the Triple Crown route, so the Derby, the St.Leger.a big season is planned. The TC is rarely tried here and hasnt been done since Nijinsky in 1970


thanks for the info! Hope he runs well.

Thoroughbred Fan 03-19-2007 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Smart Strike...:cool: :cool:

He can get a runner, but has terrible front legs and passes it on quite often.

Thoroughbred Fan 03-19-2007 08:45 AM

For my money the best in the world are: Sadler's Wells, A.P. Indy, Redoute's Choice, El Prado, Gone West, Encosta de Lago, and Not For Love.

magic_idol 03-19-2007 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan
For my money the best in the world are: Sadler's Wells, A.P. Indy, Redoute's Choice, El Prado, Gone West, Encosta de Lago, and Not For Love.

Redoute's Choice produces the best offspring ive ever seen time & time again,
Some of his yearlings come in at the 500 kilo mark ( not sure in american weight that would be ) Now if we could only get him on the breeders Cup stallion list;)
There would be no more talk of street cry:cool:

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan
For my money the best in the world are: Sadler's Wells, A.P. Indy, Redoute's Choice, El Prado, Gone West, Encosta de Lago, and Not For Love.

I like Not For Love as well... He's got some good two-year-olds this year that I'm going to be watching for when they make their starts.

Thoroughbred Fan 03-19-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I like Not For Love as well... He's got some good two-year-olds this year that I'm going to be watching for when they make their starts.

And if they had given in and moved him to KY years ago, he'd be standing for $100k. He gets a bunch of quality horses out of very average mares.

saucon17 03-19-2007 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan
And if they had given in and moved him to KY years ago, he'd be standing for $100k. He gets a bunch of quality horses out of very average mares.

He is a steal for 25k with all the great horses on the dam side. He
was a modest racehorse compared to full brother Rythm who
can't sire anything. I couldn't believe when I went to Northview
stallion show they were considering lowering his fee to 20K, but
they didn't

Thoroughbred Fan 03-19-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by saucon17
He is a steal for 25k with all the great horses on the dam side. He
was a modest racehorse compared to full brother Rythm who
can't sire anything. I couldn't believe when I went to Northview
stallion show they were considering lowering his fee to 20K, but
they didn't

They actually did for anyone signing a contract by Jan 1st. Then it went back to $25k.

brockguy 03-19-2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Before he went sour at the end of his career -- and possibly mismanaged -- he was awesome! His Arc win over El Condor Pasa was one for the ages!

you could exactly that about his best son Hurricane Run.. eerily similar profile.. A great Arc win followed by a decent first half 4yo season and then..

Cajungator26 03-19-2007 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
He is a steal for 25k with all the great horses on the dam side. He
was a modest racehorse compared to full brother Rythm who
can't sire anything. I couldn't believe when I went to Northview
stallion show they were considering lowering his fee to 20K, but
they didn't

I actually like his son Duckhorn a lot.

saucon17 03-19-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan
They actually did for anyone signing a contract by Jan 1st. Then it went back to $25k.

Thanks for the info, I guess it pays to sign the contract
early sometimes.

Cajungator26 03-19-2007 10:15 AM

Does anyone have any thoughts on how successful Deputy Storm will be? (He stands at Northview in Maryland as well.) He's a Forestry and built very similar to Discreet Cat. I'm curious to see how well he does.

saucon17 03-19-2007 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Does anyone have any thoughts on how successful Deputy Storm will be? (He stands at Northview in Maryland as well.) He's a Forestry and built very similar to Discreet Cat. I'm curious to see how well he does.

He was suppose to stand last year but they didn't get enough bookings because in Pa. there was a Forestry son named Congressionalhonor who was standing. He is a Gr3 winning son out of Quiet Dance who is the dam of the late Saint Liam. He was booked to close to 100 mares last year. We have a 2week old filly by CHonor. Cajun a nice looking sire they had at Northview was Dance With Ravens who has an outstanding pedigree

Thoroughbred Fan 03-19-2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Does anyone have any thoughts on how successful Deputy Storm will be? (He stands at Northview in Maryland as well.) He's a Forestry and built very similar to Discreet Cat. I'm curious to see how well he does.


I've seen him many times. They actually got him last year when they got Dance With Ravens (he might be the next Malibu Moon). He wasn't very popular, so they thought about racing him again, but didn't. He was as fast as they come. He is a bit smaller, but well put together. The $50k prize for being the breeder of the first winner of $100k is pretty cool. I think he'll throw young speedballs, but I'd advise to breed him to a larger mare.

Cajungator26 03-19-2007 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
He was suppose to stand last year but they didn't get enough bookings because in Pa. there was a Forestry son named Congressionalhonor who was standing. He is a Gr3 winning son out of Quiet Dance who is the dam of the late Saint Liam. He was booked to close to 100 mares last year. We have a 2week old filly by CHonor. Cajun a nice looking sire they had at Northview was Dance With Ravens who has an outstanding pedigree

Thank you for the info. I was just curious because his conformation is so similar to Discreet Cat's while Congressionalhonor's is not. What do you think of your new filly?

I'm familiar with Dance With Ravens... his dam is the half to Smart Strike (sire of the great and powerful ENGLISH CHANNEL :eek:) and also the dam of Dance Brightly, who sired one of my fave horses of last year, Bright One. RIP.

Cajungator26 03-19-2007 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan
I've seen him many times. They actually got him last year when they got Dance With Ravens (he might be the next Malibu Moon). He wasn't very popular, so they thought about racing him again, but didn't. He was as fast as they come. He is a bit smaller, but well put together. The $50k prize for being the breeder of the first winner of $100k is pretty cool. I think he'll throw young speedballs, but I'd advise to breed him to a larger mare.

How small is he? Is he under 15.2 hands?


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