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GPK 03-06-2007 10:01 PM

Battle Won....didnt he win a stakes race on Derby Day a couple years ago?? Smarty's Derby maybe?

Sightseek 03-06-2007 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Battle Won....didnt he win a stakes race on Derby Day a couple years ago?? Smarty's Derby maybe?

I think it was chuck's first Graded Stakes win too, correct?

Hooray for Chuck!

somerfrost 03-06-2007 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA
I hate to say that I might see a pattern here. I hope not, LOL.

Eric


As I've always said...Julie Krone!

Cannon Shell 03-06-2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Sad wagering story involving Battle Won (albeit indirectly) from the CD HCDP. on Derby Day two (?) years ago.

I watch that day's races with three other friends, and in a host of races, each guy selects a horse to form a $1 triple box. I really liked Level Playingfield in the race -- loaded with speed, he was one of the closers -- but didn't recommend him because he was 50-1. As you might remember, you closes stoutly to finish behind you (20-1?) and Biancone's Pomeroy finishes 3rd to form a HUGE triple. (We used Battle Won; a friend keyed him with vigor!)

Yes I do. The owner of Battle Won had an $80 triple. Made way more gambling than on the purse check. Level Playingfield always ran well at CD.

GPK 03-06-2007 10:04 PM

I remember that....it was the first Pick 3 I ever hit. America Alive, Battle Won and Half Ours. If I remember right it paid about $318 for $1 that day.

Cannon Shell 03-06-2007 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I remember that....it was the first Pick 3 I ever hit. America Alive, Battle Won and Half Ours. If I remember right it paid about $318 for $1 that day.

I dont remember because I was pretty drunk by posttime for the next race

GPK 03-06-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I dont remember because I was pretty drunk by posttime for the next race

shocker.....:D

Cannon Shell 03-06-2007 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
shocker.....:D

Remember I pretty fat so it takes alot.

GPK 03-06-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Remember I pretty fat so it takes alot.


IM a professional....so it takes alot for me too:D

SCUDSBROTHER 03-07-2007 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Battle Won in Bing Crosby. Honestly the horse had a bad habit of breaking slow and I figured P val may be able to get him out of there quick. But did not work out .

Well,your horse(once he broke poorly) could have gotten in more trouble,or been quickly rushed up to the front.Pat got him forwardly placed as soon as he could(without rushing him,and emptying him.) He got him to draw away nicely from some nice horses. Greg's Gold was just too good that day(108.04.) With a slow start,Pat and your horse got a what? 108.20,or 108.25 ?? Here is what I know.If Pat had ridden your horse in the Forego,Mass Media wouldn't have gotten by.Greg's Gold was probably too tough that day at Del Mar,but Pat would have found enough late to get that Forego.If you keep using him, you will get that Grade 1. Hey,this is the guy that use to drive Pincay nuts(he admits Pat would beat him on lesser horses.) The 2nd or 3rd best horse may be all you need.

Kasept 03-07-2007 05:59 AM

1. Eddie Arcaro
2. Willie Shoemaker
3. Issac Murphy
4. Laffit Pincay
5. Chris McCarron
6. Jerry Bailey
7. Earl Sande
8. Bill Hartak
9. Steve Cauthen
10. Tod Sloan

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-07-2007 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
1. Eddie Arcaro
2. Willie Shoemaker
3. Issac Murphy
4. Laffit Pincay
5. Chris McCarron
6. Jerry Bailey
7. Earl Sande
8. Bill Hartak
9. Steve Cauthen
10. Tod Sloan

no v bush?...............lol

Byebyemermaid 03-07-2007 06:16 AM

1-Julie Krone,we will never know how great she could of been but nobody could get a horse to relax like she did.
2-Angel Cordero Jr.-People disliked him for being too aggressive.I say Poppycock to that.The greatest ride ever in my opinion is the one he gave Bold Forbes in the Belmont.Riders today would have grabbed leather with him and the horse would have finished up the track.Cordero knew the further they go the more they hang.
3-Braulio Baeza-Ice water in his veins and a master at pace.

2Hot4TV 03-07-2007 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
Chris Antley, Laffit Pincay Jr and Willie Shoemaker

Add Chris McCarron, But Shoemaker was the best.

Bigsmc 03-07-2007 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I dont remember because I was pretty drunk by posttime for the next race

Atta Boy. The proper way to celebrate a win.

Wait'll Sumwon wins one, you'll have small army of people to get drunk with...

Holland Hacker 03-07-2007 06:45 AM

Top ten not in any specific order:
Arcaro
Winkfield
Shoemaker
Pincay
Cordero
Krone
Antley
McCarron
Bailey
Day

Payson Dave 03-07-2007 07:51 AM

I would include Braulio Baeza & Angel Cordero Jr. on my short list of great jocks.

Anybody remember Robyn C Smith...she might have been one of the best looking..and she got a few mounts from AG Vanderbilt..

Grits 03-07-2007 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
by far and away, and i mean this as sincerely as is possible for a post on a message board, the best ride i ever saw was the ride the jock gave the first time starter named MOBO to a second place finish in the third race saturday at Santa anita.

he was trained by oneill, and if it werent for the fact that there was another oneill fts in the race, he for surely would have won with that remarkable ride!

of course, the charts wont tell you the whole story, so it's best to have seen it, or go to calracing to watch it.

And Mobo's rider met the dirt about 3 jumps out of the gate, while Mobo ran on without him, gaining second, no less. O'Neill's other entry, Try To Fly, by Trippi, got to the wire 5 ahead of him, earning a Beyer, I believe, of 98.

ARyan 03-07-2007 10:19 AM

Angel Cordero Jr.


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