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Originally Posted by Mike

This should end the argument i saw on here that Obama's Yale accomplishments were no more impressive than Palins college experience

Obama's Yale accomplishment are no greater than Scuds University of Istanbul experience. He went to Harvard.

Sorry, I misspoke. I meant to say Harvard, but it does show how little I know.

I'll investigate this if you really think Obama is not on a higher intellectual level than Palin

Scuds, what was your experience at Istanbul like?. Do you understand the Sunni's some?

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Originally Posted by Mike

Sorry, I misspoke. I meant to say Harvard, but it does show how little I know.

I'll investigate this if you really think Obama is not on a higher intellectual level than Palin

What was Scuds experience at Istanbul. Does he understand the Sunni's some?

Ambassador I would imagine.:)

Apparently they're very tourist oriented in Instanbul and have a good nightlife scene.

It being a pivotal point in the international drug trade raises concerns that Scuds has not been properly vetted before being allowed to be a member here. Why did he choose to attend such a distant university (though it does have a top notch reputation)?

Why did Sarah Palin, an Idaho born/Alaskan raised girl, leave the University of Hawaii after two weeks, because it rained. I think two weeks in a college semester is too long to get your money for the semester refunded. Someone ate that bill.

I gave her a chance, but everything points to her being a bit of a dim wit

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Obviously, most religious people have "the need." There is a gradient involved here. Islam having the most "need," and Buddhism having the least "need."....As far as players thanking God for success goes, is that part of religious doctrine(God will favor you in athletic events?) I think they think it doesn't hurt, and it could help(covering their a-s-s just in case.)

I don't think it has anything to do with currying favor from God in athletic events. It seems to me that many people that carry this faith, believe in their hearts that their God blessed them with a talent and maybe that is their way of thanking Him.

Again, there are radicals on both sides of the ball (no pun intended) that seem intent on jamming their particular beliefs down your throat. I have my particular faith that I choose to rely on and would never tell someone that believes different from me that they are wrong.

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Originally Posted by Mike

Scuds, what was your experience at Istanbul like?. Do you understand the Sunni's some?

Yea, I understand the TURKS only too well. Here is the pattern:

1) They lie(often.)

2) Tell you "you're trippin'" (when you inform them that they're liars.)

3) Argument ensues, and ends in an abrupt stop in communication( probably after an "F-YOU")

4) After a given amount of time, they ask you how you are doing(as if there was never an argument.)

5) no doubt there soon will be a return to #1

These are "Western Loving" Turks (Secular non-religious types.) Good luck with the religious ones.

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I never get owned on any discussion about policy. People simply start name calling etc., or more often, they change to another issue(such as you just did with the Dodger thread stuff.) What you call "getting owned" is almost always somebody changing the topic of discussion. It's clever etc., and I usually go ahead and let people do it. The fact is people run, turn a handle, or steer away from the topic.

1)Dodger threads(evading the topic at hand.)

2)Getting owned etc.( a claim with zero evidence)

3) You claim that the concern about the McCaine's health is a joke. You've attempted to make fun of somebody who has an excellent point. Men die from 72-76 a lot. So, this is a huge issue, and his V.P. pick is not the small issue people think it is.

4) You say r and d rarely if ever talk about the faults of their own parties. Well, of course they are going to talk about the faults of the party that stands for policies they despise.Those are the concerns they most have. I have said I disagree with the Democratic Party about immigration. It's a huge fault, but the Republicans aren't doing anything to stop it either. I want Mobil Exxon to stop getting tax credits while making 10 bil a quarter year. Republicans want to keep giving them that. I'm voting against them doing that. There is nothing incredibly special (to me) about the Democratic Party. I'm only concerned with stopping the implementation of the policies of the Republican Party. Any non-Republican candidate has a chance to get my vote. They've smoked 4k American Lives in Iraq(with not much of a return on those Americans lost...certainly not enough for me.) Those are 2 very big issues. Sorry, but the parties are far apart on them. I don't have a choice. There is only one party that can stop them. You call it partisan. I call it voting for people who share my own views on important topics. It's not like these 2 parties are close on their views. That's a myth perpetuated by people who don't know the views of each party. I will say something about the 2 people running on the Republican side. They are far,far,far better Americans than the 2 now in there. I will not feel nearly as bad about these 2 getting elected.

tl;dr all of it

BUT...yeah people die between 72-76 but a very small percentage of those people have the access to the same health care McCain has.

Lets use some common sense here, people. Reagan was a vegetable and they kept him alive.

Can't we talk about Drug's Sister In Law people?

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Originally Posted by GBBob

Can't we talk about Drug's Sister In Law people?

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Originally Posted by Mike

Apparently they're very tourist oriented in Instanbul and have a good nightlife scene.

It being a pivotal point in the international drug trade raises concerns that Scuds has not been properly vetted before being allowed to be a member here. Why did he choose to attend such a distant university (though it does have a top notch reputation)?

Why did Sarah Palin, an Idaho born/Alaskan raised girl, leave the University of Hawaii after two weeks, because it rained. I think two weeks in a college semester is too long to get your money for the semester refunded. Someone ate that bill.

I gave her a chance, but everything points to her being a bit of a dim wit

Why Mike you are starting to sound like an elitist

No, I'm not an elitist. I'm not sure what classification I'd have in that regard

My education was one of developing critical thinking skills, rather than one of indoctrination

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I wouldn't want any of us to be Vice President of our country. That's the difference.

Sad thing is if I was offered the chance to replace Cheney with Sumitas I'd have a tough time saying no.

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Originally Posted by Mike

No, I'm not an elitist. I'm not sure what classification I'd have in that regard

My education was one of developing critical thinking skills, rather than one of indoctrination

you just lost the argument. stop falling into that trap.

be an elitist. be a proud proud elitist. it beats being a creationist. or one of the brain dead beating the drum for them.

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

you just lost the argument. stop falling into that trap.

be an elitist. be a proud proud elitist. it beats being a creationist. or one of the brain dead beating the drum for them.

Or as Jon Stewart said:

Doesn’t elite mean good? Is that not something we’re looking for in a president anymore? … The job you’re applying for — if you get it, and it goes well, they might carve your head into a mountain. If you don’t actually think you are better than us, then what the f@*k are you doing?

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Originally Posted by Mike

No, I'm not an elitist. I'm not sure what classification I'd have in that regard

My education was one of developing critical thinking skills, rather than one of indoctrination

My mistake..you are just being a liberal and that you are true to yourself is very much respected.

I disagree that we should keep picking from this "elite" class or school type of people. If we do indeed want change it will not come from selecting and voting from the same moron types over and over again.

Maybe when Bush leaves office the "love -hate" can end and all this black/white thinking can end....for the real truth usually lies somewhere in-between.

these are some of the things i don't like about the republicans and their ultra right, and in this case, their vp nominee:

Gov. Sarah Palin’s church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.
“You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality,” according to the insert in the bulletin of the Wasilla Bible Church, where Palin has prayed for about six years.

Palin’s conservative Christian views have energized that part of the GOP electorate, which was lukewarm to John McCain’s candidacy before he named her as his vice presidential choice. She is staunchly anti-abortion, opposing exceptions for rape and incest, and opposes gay marriage and spousal rights for gay couples.

My upbringing was middle class, my father was a union worker(plumber, pipe/steamfitter). I was the only child that didn't go to a tech college, I went to a very small, very liberal school(Marlboro College)

Perhaps when I refer to the "masses", I sound like I'm not part of them. I am, and need to give credit that there are bright and dim witted people in each of the social classes

When I worked doing swimming pools in the Hamptons and Montauk, I encountered "class" for the first time. There was no question I was the working class, a servant to the owners

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Originally Posted by Danzig

Add to the above possibly promoting the teaching of creationism in Science classrooms in Alaska. I am still looking this up. We are getting ready for a battle right now in Texas on this very issue.

A complete waste of time and money by our idiotic board of education.