From some random internet article dated 9/3...

We know the pollsters and pundits all have their predictions and opinions but when you want to know the real odds on the election you always want to check with the sports books. For some reason the "bookies" are usually right! As of today Barack Obama is a significant favorite.

Of course betting on elections is illegal in the United States but just for entertainment purposes here are the latest odds on McCain vs. Obama.

John McCain is 3-2 (For every $200 wagered you'd win $300)

Barack Obama is 1-2 (For every $200 wagered you'd win $100)

I think its both sides. Look at all of the morons on here that saw this mayor of alaska and decided that she was the best thing since wheat bread. Look at the dorks like arljim78 (i will bet you 2-1 that he is a virgin!) that think she is the female Reagan reincarnated and if that were so it would be a good thing.

We need the cokehead out of office. I am not saying Obama is the next FDR but it is something different. mccain is the same damn thing.

We will find something else to wager on.

Goodnight Coach. Slurp your ass...and give me the blog link.

I never get owned on any discussion about policy. People simply start name calling etc., or more often, they change to another issue(such as you just did with the Dodger thread stuff.) What you call "getting owned" is almost always somebody changing the topic of discussion. It's clever etc., and I usually go ahead and let people do it. The fact is people run, turn a handle, or steer away from the topic.

1)Dodger threads(evading the topic at hand.)

2)Getting owned etc.( a claim with zero evidence)

3) You claim that the concern about the McCaine's health is a joke. You've attempted to make fun of somebody who has an excellent point. Men die from 72-76 a lot. So, this is a huge issue, and his V.P. pick is not the small issue people think it is.

4) You say r and d rarely if ever talk about the faults of their own parties. Well, of course they are going to talk about the faults of the party that stands for policies they despise.Those are the concerns they most have. I have said I disagree with the Democratic Party about immigration. It's a huge fault, but the Republicans aren't doing anything to stop it either. I want Mobil Exxon to stop getting tax credits while making 10 bil a quarter year. Republicans want to keep giving them that. I'm voting against them doing that. There is nothing incredibly special (to me) about the Democratic Party. I'm only concerned with stopping the implementation of the policies of the Republican Party. Any non-Republican candidate has a chance to get my vote. They've smoked 4k American Lives in Iraq(with not much of a return on those Americans lost...certainly not enough for me.) Those are 2 very big issues. Sorry, but the parties are far apart on them. I don't have a choice. There is only one party that can stop them. You call it partisan. I call it voting for people who share my own views on important topics. It's not like these 2 parties are close on their views. That's a myth perpetuated by people who don't know the views of each party. I will say something about the 2 people running on the Republican side. They are far,far,far better Americans than the 2 now in there. I will not feel nearly as bad about these 2 getting elected.

isn't she the governor of alaska? agree or disagree with palins policy, i don't understand why some (sally quinn for one) are attacking her as being a young mom, so why is she running? the sexism right now is amazing. did anyone question why jfk was running? or obama now? it's ridiculous.

as someone who has voted for both democrats and republicans, i can say it's not easy to choose in this election. you have mccain, who is shunned by many ultra-conservatives (which imo is a good thing) and obama who hasn't got much of a track record to truly get a feel for him-but based on what voting record he has, is considered more of a liberal. since i consider myself middle of the road, i usually sway more towards middle of the road candidates.

but both candidates support parts of the constitution, while rejecting others. both agree with things i agree with, and both disagree with others. it's a difficult choice.

many vote based only on the abortion issue. i personally don't think roe v wade will be overturned regardless, so it's a non issue for me.

i still haven't decided who i will vote for, and am waiting for the debates. i didn't watch a moment of either convention, as it teaches you nothing. both sides are there with only their supporters, and would have made speeches designed to rev up their base, and produce talking points. they're meaningless.


but regardless of who wins, we'll all be just fine. since congress ultimately makes all laws, produces all budgets, it's in their court to steer this country. all the president can do on the domestic front in this respects is sign or veto legislation. he doesn't write one damn bit of it, so to suggest that a prez balanced a budget or did away with a deficit is laughable.

the cokehead will be out of office soon regardless of who wins the election.

I gotta' let the late great Reverend George Carlin be my political guide. If you have never seen him on Bill Maher's HBO show(or the old Politically InCorrect), check him out on YOUTUBE. It may offend some here who might have liked him otherwise(atheist liberal that he was). He would get very, very angry with the conservative guests on, and he let them know in no uncertain terms

Politicians hide behind God, guns and children, he would say

Danzig has a huge point here...if you really want to make a difference...vote out the Congress people who are do nothing and there are a sh^t load of them. Vote out those that aren't willing to work together to find solutions - enough of pointing the finger at the other guy/girl and blaming them. ..For if you are pointing - you are the problem.

Everybody hates congress overall but loves their guy.

The incumbent wins virtually everytime - often in a landslide.

many of those who rousted out their incumbents in the last election are now facing an approval rating in the single digits. and many of those voted in ran on a platform of change. yet we're worse off than a year ago.
it angers me that a growing majority of the population wants to drill here at home-yet the speaker of the house won't allow a vote. this is NOT a dictatorship, and one person should not have the right to bar a vote. whether allowing drilling and more off shore would pass or not, i don't know-but at least allow discussion and a vote!

i voted for both our senators, both democrats. they're ok, but really don't do much for me personally. but they were far better than the right wing bible thumping nut jobs who ran against them.
it could always be worse, but i think right now we can do better.

Quick link to something you have have missed at the RNC, a speech by Independent George Carlin on the concept of "National Pride" and the political slogan "God bless America":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cwOqKfEYTg

soooo people get what they deserve?

Excellent!

drugs mom should be v/p

I think he has a point!

I always wondered why athletes always thank God after they win - why do they get in a huddle before the game and pray. The other day I saw Edgar Prado bless himself after he won the race..hell I saw Tiger point to heaven after he snaked in a long putt.

Jimmy Johnson even blessed himself after he won the Pepsi 500..I saw Manny Ramirez blast one and then kiss his medal and point to heaven. Kanye West won some Rap Award and thanked God.

Sometimes I even catch myself saying a prayer or two or asking for guidance from my Mom & Dad that have passed.

WTF is the matter with these people - hell WTF is the matter me.:confused:

I think it's called faith.

By the perverted standards of today - she might be qualified.

She's had 5 kids - all boys - was the youngest licensed female trainer in PA history, winning her first race just after turning 18. Sharp businesswoman and all.

Give her guns and a bible to pander hard with and she'd be all set. She doesn't have a pregnant 17yo, but two of her three marriages failed so she'd even have the hypocrisy angle nailed.

I don't know about her speeches or debates - but I know she has never lost an argument in her life. Her record in those would make Rocky Marciano envious.

She still probably looks good enough to turn on desperate old men like Kudlow and Limbaugh. Problem is that she's way too old. In her 50's and all.

From my little bro's wedding last year:

Let me guess...you got the brains.

The deciding factor in every election are the people who don't hold a strong bond with any party. Usually these people are extremely dumb, lazy, indecisive and fat. They vote primarily for more stuff. Whoever promises the most stuff gets their vote.

Right now Obama is playing the economy card acting like we're on the verge of becoming another Sudan. It's working.

Drug;


What's yer Mom's e-mail?

Make sure I get it too:tro: