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RockHardTen1985 03-09-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 969050)
That was an awesome game. Rockets needed it with an incredibly tough 3 game stretch starting Tuesday. They're at OKC (Tuesday), at Chicago (Thursday) and at Miami (Sunday).

2-1....
They will lost at Miami, revenge game for the Heat after Houstons big win last week.

Cannon Shell 03-10-2014 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969040)
What a game and Big Game James is going off again. Making a late push for MVP as Lebron and KD and George all struggle.

Marcus Thornton has a better chance of being MVP

Cannon Shell 03-10-2014 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 969018)
The rust is off...just a different team when Durant defers to Westbrook.

They gave up 114 points to the Lakers and 128 to Phoenix and before that 107 to Memphis, 114 to Cleveland and 125 to the Clippers and are playing without 2 starters. Sefalosha and Perkins dont score much but they play defined roles that they havent been able to quite match since they got hurt. Naturally everyone blames Westbrook but offense isnt the real issue here.

Cannon Shell 03-10-2014 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969019)
You could make a case for 6 teams, and I would listen.
IMO only 4 can come out....
OKC, Houston, Clippers and Golden St.
I think San Antonio is in trouble and POrtlands not there yet.

San Antonio is showing signs of being in trouble.
They are only 13-3 since Feb 1
Only 9-1 in their last 10
Only winning by an average of 11pts in those 9 wins

They have all their key players back from injuries, seem to be rolling going into the final stretch of the season, have a great coach and and a hungry, playoff tested roster.

Yeah they sound like they are in deep trouble.

RockHardTen1985 03-10-2014 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 969059)
Marcus Thornton has a better chance of being MVP

Harden will get an MVP. Don't forget how young he is.

Duvalier 03-10-2014 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 969060)
They gave up 114 points to the Lakers and 128 to Phoenix and before that 107 to Memphis, 114 to Cleveland and 125 to the Clippers and are playing without 2 starters. Sefalosha and Perkins dont score much but they play defined roles that they havent been able to quite match since they got hurt. Naturally everyone blames Westbrook but offense isnt the real issue here.

By advanced metrics, weren't the Thunder a worse team with Perkins on the floor, and wasn't Perkins one of the worst players in the league? Those stats are flawed and overvalued.

Cannon Shell 03-10-2014 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969062)
Harden will get an MVP. Don't forget how young he is.

Not a chance. Who is the last one dimensional, scoring only MVP?

Cannon Shell 03-10-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 969067)
By advanced metrics, weren't the Thunder a worse team with Perkins on the floor, and wasn't Perkins one of the worst players in the league? Those stats are are flawed and overvalued.

Offensively he dragged them down yes but when you start Adams, you weaken the 2nd team because he isnt on it and they play really undersized.

Duvalier 03-10-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 969069)
Offensively he dragged them down yes but when you start Adams, you weaken the 2nd team because he isnt on it and they play really undersized.

How do you see the West?

RockHardTen1985 03-10-2014 07:14 PM

Melo doing what Melo does. 2 for 8 with 3 turnovers!!!!!! As they are getting blasted by the high caliber Sixers.

herkhorse 03-11-2014 06:12 AM

PG doing what PG does. Knicks win by 13.

RockHardTen1985 03-11-2014 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 969157)
PG doing what PG does. Knicks win by 13.

Thanks.
But they were a 14.5 point chalk vs a team that is trying to suck

knickslions2 03-11-2014 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969136)
Melo doing what Melo does. 2 for 8 with 3 turnovers!!!!!! As they are getting blasted by the high caliber Sixers.

Melo doing what Melo does

New York, NY (SportsNetwork.com) - New York Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony and Houston Rockets guard James Harden were named the Eastern and Western Conference Players of the Week, respectively, for the period ending March 9.

The Knicks were 3-1 behind Anthony, who averaged 29.0 points, 5.3 rebounds, 4.8 assists and 2.75 steals. He tallied 33 points, five rebounds, five assists and three steals during the Knicks' 118-106 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves on March 5.

Harden guided the Rockets to a 4-0 week, which included wins over the Miami Heat, Indiana Pacers and Portland Trail Blazers. He averaged 30.3 points, 6.8 assists and 2.50 steals.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/03/...#storylink=cpy

herkhorse 03-11-2014 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969159)
Thanks.
But they were a 14.5 point chalk vs a team that is trying to suck

The Knicks have been trying to suck for 40 years.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 969135)
How do you see the West?

Ask me in three weeks lol

I think OKC when healthy is still the best team but we will see. Most of the other teams have set rotations, defined roles and will start to get into playoff mode but OKC is going to be messing around trying to figure out the best lineups moving forward, depending on the availability of Perkins and Sefalosha.

The Clippers and Houston are playing well but I still think SA is the most dangerous team in the West. They are getting healthy, have a fairly well rested team and wont beat themselves.

Phoenix is fading a bit (3-6 in last 9) and might miss the playoffs because Memphis has recovered from all their injuries and is 21-7 in the last 28. Phoenix also only has 7 home games out of its last 19. Amazing season for the Suns but they look like they are going to be climbing an uphill battle.

The West is going to be a war for the 3-6 teams.

cmorioles 03-11-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 969069)
Offensively he dragged them down yes but when you start Adams, you weaken the 2nd team because he isnt on it and they play really undersized.

Sefalosha has been a much bigger loss than Perkins. The losses against the Suns and Lakers had nothing at all to do with size, both played small the vast majority of the game and Perkins rarely plays when that happens. But wing players are just destroying the Thunder, and that is Thabo's role.

We supposedly needed Perkins against teams like Memphis, but did fine without him. Tonight might be a different story. We'll see how Adams does. He is the kind of player that bothers Howard, but he will have to stay out of foul trouble. Perkins is Howard's kryptonite.

NTamm1215 03-11-2014 09:30 AM

Should be an interesting game tonight. The Rockets got the worst of it schedule-wise the first two times against OKC (4th game in 5 nights) then 5th game in 7 nights when they had the epic 2nd half meltdown. Now, they're playing well and OKC is struggling. I'm sure Patrick Beverley and Westbrook will share pleasantries before the game.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 969166)
Sefalosha has been a much bigger loss than Perkins. The losses against the Suns and Lakers had nothing at all to do with size, both played small the vast majority of the game and Perkins rarely plays when that happens. But wing players are just destroying the Thunder, and that is Thabo's role.

We supposedly needed Perkins against teams like Memphis, but did fine without him. Tonight might be a different story. We'll see how Adams does. He is the kind of player that bothers Howard, but he will have to stay out of foul trouble. Perkins is Howard's kryptonite.

Yeah agree that Sefalosha is a bigger loss but the point was that missing 2 starters disrupts the all the lineups, the second team as well. Guys are forced into different roles and asked to play different minutes. They will adjust but it might take a few games but the Skip Bayless types want to make every game a referendum. And you are right about the foul trouble with Adams. Still a no respect from the refs rookie. Shouldnt matter but it still seems to.

I was thinking this am that OKC might be better off in 2nd seed and playing Dallas in 1st round. They'd still have home court over anyone except SA and the way the West is there are no guarantees the 1 and 2 seeds are going to advance to WC finals like the East

Cannon Shell 03-11-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonadave (Post 969181)
Losing two top players has hurt the Suns.Still have a chance,but its been a good season.

Suns are worn out. A bunch of players are playing career high minutes and they play at a fast pace as well. They have a boatload of cap space and #1 picks. Future is bright.

RockHardTen1985 03-11-2014 07:17 PM

I think Houston makes a GIANT statement and wins @OKC tonight.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 969167)
I'm sure Patrick Beverley and Westbrook will share pleasantries before the game.

Good call though during the game was the final answer

Cannon Shell 03-11-2014 07:27 PM

he NBA has certainly changed. In the old days Beverly would get lured into driving to the basket for a "hard foul/clothlesline" and Harden would get pummeled by some ML Carr type guy off the bench. Perkins is good for this type of activity.

Caron Butler is a self check. They are just daring him to shoot.

cmorioles 03-11-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969194)
I think Houston makes a GIANT statement and wins @OKC tonight.

Seriously, thanks.

Beverly is a no talent assclown.

Steven Adams rented out some space inside Howard's head and moved in, not that it takes much.

RockHardTen1985 03-12-2014 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 969204)
Seriously, thanks.

Beverly is a no talent assclown.

Steven Adams rented out some space inside Howard's head and moved in, not that it takes much.

I dont like Beverly, at all. He is just not that good, I think Lin is the much better player. Good win from OKC.

cmorioles 03-12-2014 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 969198)
he NBA has certainly changed. In the old days Beverly would get lured into driving to the basket for a "hard foul/clothlesline" and Harden would get pummeled by some ML Carr type guy off the bench. Perkins is good for this type of activity.

Caron Butler is a self check. They are just daring him to shoot.

Adams did a nice job on Harden.

Butler was fine, or did I miss something? 3 or 7 on 3s, including a big one in the 4th. I'd certainly rather him be the open guy in the corner than Thabo or Lamb (at this point).

RockHardTen1985 03-12-2014 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 969207)
Adams did a nice job on Harden.

Butler was fine, or did I miss something? 3 or 7 on 3s, including a big one in the 4th. I'd certainly rather him be the open guy in the corner than Thabo or Lamb (at this point).

Lamb is pretty good.

cmorioles 03-12-2014 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969208)
Lamb is pretty good.

Been in a month long slump.

RockHardTen1985 03-12-2014 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 969209)
Been in a month long slump.

Hes a kid, he will shoot his way out of it.

Cannon Shell 03-12-2014 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 969207)
Adams did a nice job on Harden.

Butler was fine, or did I miss something? 3 or 7 on 3s, including a big one in the 4th. I'd certainly rather him be the open guy in the corner than Thabo or Lamb (at this point).

Yeah Adams kind of gave him a shot.

I wrote the Butler comment in the 1st quarter when he had missed a few wide open shots that Houston didnt even contest. He did shoot better afterwards.

Cannon Shell 03-12-2014 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969206)
I dont like Beverly, at all. He is just not that good, I think Lin is the much better player. Good win from OKC.

Beverly is not on the court for his offense.

Duvalier 03-12-2014 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 969204)
Beverly is a no talent assclown.

Saw his act the other night, funniest thing was his interview the next day. He's a clown.

cmorioles 03-12-2014 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969211)
Hes a kid, he will shoot his way out of it.

Doubtful, not going to get much chance.

RockHardTen1985 03-12-2014 07:49 PM

Love love Portland plus 8. $330/300
Golden st plus 6.5, $65/50

RockHardTen1985 03-12-2014 08:11 PM

Paul Pierce going old school right now. Always loved Pierce. This big white dude on Brooklyn can ball a little, smooth J w/ big range.

ateamstupid 03-12-2014 08:32 PM

Don't think it's possible to dismiss the Nets anymore. Kidd has managed to turn this team into a turnover-forcing machine. Livingston has been a godsend.

cmorioles 03-12-2014 09:12 PM

Lebron has looked like junk since his 61 game. MVP firmly in KDs grasp at this point.

Duvalier 03-13-2014 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969288)
Love love Portland plus 8. $330/300
Golden st plus 6.5, $65/50

Ok that's enough with the Portland...

King Glorious 03-13-2014 09:09 AM

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Charles Barkley, and Blake Griffin. Those are the three guys in league history to have 6,000 points, 3,000 rebounds, 1,000 assists, and shoot over 50% in their first four seasons.

Cannon Shell 03-13-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 969326)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Charles Barkley, and Blake Griffin. Those are the three guys in league history to have 6,000 points, 3,000 rebounds, 1,000 assists, and shoot over 50% in their first four seasons.

Blake Griffith needs to smack the **** out of someone soon. It seems like every game someone is taking a run at him. Needs to take the fine and just go off on the next guy that does it.

cmorioles 03-13-2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 969364)
Blake Griffith needs to smack the **** out of someone soon. It seems like every game someone is taking a run at him. Needs to take the fine and just go off on the next guy that does it.

Blake isn't exactly the cleanest player around. There is a reason people keep taking runs at him, all the way back to college.


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