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dellinger63 06-08-2015 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 1030797)
with all the news and all the personal stories coming out. Special shout out to Victor Espinoza for pulling in some hot young chicks, one he is engaged to and one 19 yr old on the side.

Hope he gets to keep at least one mount:D

Good for him! We only have one life we know of.

Arletta 06-08-2015 08:40 PM

"Owner tearfully release AP after triple crown win"

“You’ve done more than I could have asked, and now you’re free to roam and run wherever you please,” said the horse’s owner, Ahmed Zayat, who, following American Pharoah’s victory in the Belmont Stakes, is said to have transported the 3-year-old colt deep into the country near a forest clearing, removed its saddle, and given the animal one last kiss on the forehead before setting it free.

:D

http://www.theonion.com/article/owne...after-tr-50605

Dunbar 06-08-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1030806)
"Owner tearfully release AP after triple crown win"

“You’ve done more than I could have asked, and now you’re free to roam and run wherever you please,” said the horse’s owner, Ahmed Zayat, who, following American Pharoah’s victory in the Belmont Stakes, is said to have transported the 3-year-old colt deep into the country near a forest clearing, removed its saddle, and given the animal one last kiss on the forehead before setting it free.

:D

http://www.theonion.com/article/owne...after-tr-50605

Heh heh, right! I was hoping Andy Borowitz would do a piece with American Pharoah, but he opted for LeBron instead.

Indian Charlie 06-08-2015 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1030787)
I've been meaning to ask you if there was some kind of announcement a while back - something about a game whereby the objective was to take YOUR words, twist them up and spin them around, spit them out again - only I missed the invite cause there has been quite a bit of this lately but really only with you.

It's looks like you've been included now.

Congratulations. Of course, it's a nice touch mocking others while feigning innocence, then putting the blame elsewhere.

It's a wonder to behold, this sort of irrational unraveling.

What would be cool is to have everyone reread these threads in two years.

Arletta 06-08-2015 09:50 PM

Victor's reaction after the race :)

https://www.facebook.com/belmont.stakes?fref=nf

geeker2 06-09-2015 11:17 AM

Zayat said most likely Haskell on ATR

MaTH716 06-09-2015 12:19 PM

Had the pleasure of meeting Justin Zayat yesterday. He was a really nice guy. Not that I was expecting any kind of scoop or truthful answer, but he said they were indeed looking at the Haskell & that AP came out of the race fine.
Take it for what its worth.

Danzig 06-09-2015 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 1030884)
Had the pleasure of meeting Justin Zayat yesterday. He was a really nice guy. Not that I was expecting any kind of scoop or truthful answer, but he said they were indeed looking at the Haskell & that AP came out of the race fine.
Take it for what its worth.

hope his stomach is better.

and for those who 'don't like zayat' blah blah blah.....

i hope you'd consider paynter-everyone gave up on that horse, but the owners didn't. how quickly memories fade.

DonGuido 06-09-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1030901)
hope his stomach is better.

and for those who 'don't like zayat' blah blah blah.....

i hope you'd consider paynter-everyone gave up on that horse, but the owners didn't. how quickly memories fade.

Mr. Zayat is a horseman first and a business owner second. Just the way we like'em. He cares and he shows it.

freddymo 06-09-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DonGuido (Post 1030968)
Mr. Zayat is a horseman first and a business owner second. Just the way we like'em. He cares and he shows it.

This is even too much for me to stomach

DonGuido 06-09-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1030973)
This is even too much for me to stomach

And . . .? Like I give a rip!

my miss storm cat 06-09-2015 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1030812)
It's looks like you've been included now.

Congratulations. Of course, it's a nice touch mocking others while feigning innocence, then putting the blame elsewhere.

It's a wonder to behold, this sort of irrational unraveling.

What would be cool is to have everyone reread these threads in two years.

Yeah I especially enjoyed that part.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1030973)
This is even too much for me to stomach

See I was going to ask if you could send me rusty razor blades so I could slit my wrists (and I like the Zayats :) )but your response is good, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonGuido (Post 1030974)
And . . .? Like I give a rip!

Cardus, are you around cause this just made me think of you. :p

Danzig 06-09-2015 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonGuido (Post 1030968)
Mr. Zayat is a horseman first and a business owner second. Just the way we like'em. He cares and he shows it.

that's not quite what i was saying, but...as you were.

Kitan 06-10-2015 04:25 PM

Canterbury???

http://www.kfan.com/onair/allens-pag...bury-13667065/

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According to Paul Allen and KFAN radio, Canterbury Park and Mystic Lake Casino & Hotel are in the final stages of crafting an offer for a $2 million purse race that will take place at the end of August.

Under its current format, The Mystic Lake Derby rolls with a prize purse of $200,000. If, and only if, American Pharoah accepts an invitation, the Derby will undergo a few adjustments, most notably knocking the purse up to $2,000,000! On top of the prize purse increase the 1 mile distance turf race, will be extended and pushed onto the main track (dirt).

saratogadew 06-10-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 1030884)
Had the pleasure of meeting Justin Zayat yesterday. He was a really nice guy. Not that I was expecting any kind of scoop or truthful answer, but he said they were indeed looking at the Haskell & that AP came out of the race fine.
Take it for what its worth.

Haskell tickets going fast!!!

declansharbor 06-10-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1031087)

Is there ANY chance at all that they take the Bayern route to the BCC? Haskell, Travers, PA Derby?


That would be incredible (for me) as I will have been present for 4 straight races of his if they in fact go this route, as unlikely as it is.

At any rate, I'm over the moon that they will likely continue to run him.

Lava 06-10-2015 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogadew (Post 1031089)
Haskell tickets going fast!!!

Just got my tickets:D

rgustafson 06-10-2015 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1031087)

As I posted in a thread on another board, money not an issue. It is there and available thanks to the local tribe.:)

letswastemoney 06-10-2015 10:44 PM

I'd go Haskell, JCGC and then Breeders' Cup Classic.

Benny 06-11-2015 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogadew (Post 1031089)
Haskell tickets going fast!!!

http://www.monmouthpark.com/News.aspx?id=9372

Haskell Seats Selling Fast, Select Sections Still Avilable
Wednesday, June 10, 2015

Their spelling not mine.

Benny 06-15-2015 01:08 PM

Monmouth sold out
 
``It's never even been close to a thought, this happening in the past,'' said Bob Kulina, president of Darby Development LLC, which operates Monmouth Park. ``Our restaurant is sold out, too. We're going to be taking a few more rooms and will have some other offerings in the next few weeks.''

With American Pharoah expected to go postward in the Haskell, estimates are that some 60,000 fans could pour into the 70-year-old facility, shattering the current attendance record of 53,638, set on Haskell Day in 2003.


http://www.app.com/story/sports/2015...-out/71238806/

GoIrish 06-15-2015 01:53 PM

I strolled up to the ticket window as I do every year around this time and was shocked to hear I'd be sitting in the 3rd level. I usually get 2nd level aisle seats. Guess I was late to the party.

I've been going to MP for 35 years and I can count on one hand the number of times I've been up there. I do hope they conduct a thorough clean-up of that otherwise sparsely used area. My buddy found a mummified pigeon up there once.

Danzig 06-15-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1031693)
``It's never even been close to a thought, this happening in the past,'' said Bob Kulina, president of Darby Development LLC, which operates Monmouth Park. ``Our restaurant is sold out, too. We're going to be taking a few more rooms and will have some other offerings in the next few weeks.''

With American Pharoah expected to go postward in the Haskell, estimates are that some 60,000 fans could pour into the 70-year-old facility, shattering the current attendance record of 53,638, set on Haskell Day in 2003.


http://www.app.com/story/sports/2015...-out/71238806/

good for monmouth!

knickslions2 06-15-2015 02:30 PM

I wonder who will challenge him there if he goes. Most likely a small field. I would think Carpe Diem maybe would go but not sure else.

TouchOfGrey 06-15-2015 02:45 PM

Has it been confirmed that he is indeed going to the Haskel?

Benny 06-16-2015 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey (Post 1031720)
Has it been confirmed that he is indeed going to the Haskel?

Seriously ??? Everyone is just guessing :zz:

robfla 06-16-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey (Post 1031720)
Has it been confirmed that he is indeed going to the Haskel?


when the Zayats were interviewed on Saturday at CD the whole family expressed a desire to go to MTH for the Haskell. It's their "home track".

Danzig 06-16-2015 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey (Post 1031720)
Has it been confirmed that he is indeed going to the Haskel?

no horse is confirmed yet. but that's their plan.

senator L 06-16-2015 06:16 PM

After listening to Mr Zayat and all his comments
I was believing they would race him again. After watching
NBC's Kenny Rice interviewing the family and listening to
Mr Zayat I think American Pharoah will get some type of
injury and never race again. Hope I'm wrong though

freddymo 06-16-2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by senator L (Post 1031837)
After listening to Mr Zayat and all his comments
I was believing they would race him again. After watching
NBC's Kenny Rice interviewing the family and listening to
Mr Zayat I think American Pharoah will get some type of
injury and never race again. Hope I'm wrong though

Save a real injury no chance

knickslions2 06-16-2015 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senator L (Post 1031837)
After listening to Mr Zayat and all his comments
I was believing they would race him again. After watching
NBC's Kenny Rice interviewing the family and listening to
Mr Zayat I think American Pharoah will get some type of
injury and never race again. Hope I'm wrong though

:zz:

Alabama Stakes 06-16-2015 11:01 PM

His word is good. Haskell it is. I think he gets it. For the good of the country,hossracing, and duty and humanity

RolloTomasi 06-17-2015 09:22 AM

Don't forget that Zayat is not averse to making deals nor is Baffert shy about accepting appearance fees. Monmouth obviously is the target, but perhaps the lure of a more lucrative package, weaker competition, and more time off from the Belmont Stakes will win out. Canterbury is making a play, and it wouldn't be a shock to see an established second-tier Derby (i.e. West Virginia, Pennsylvania, or Indiana) follow suit. Certainly, the owners of past Triple Crown winners have been successfully hooked by such opportunistic one-offs (see Secretariat, see Seattle Slew).

Waiting for a later race would also cut down hope of a Travers start or a race against older horses before the BC Classic.

senator L 06-17-2015 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1031855)
His word is good. Haskell it is. I think he gets it. For the good of the country,hossracing, and duty and humanity

I hope so. I just found it odd during the interview he said
"as long as he's healthy" about 3 times.
I was thinking Freudian slip

dellinger63 06-17-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1031855)
His word is good. Haskell it is. I think he gets it. For the good of the country,hossracing, and duty and humanity

From what I hear as long as it has nothing to do with his money his word is good.

tector 06-17-2015 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1031864)
From what I hear as long as it has nothing to do with his money his word is good.

:tro::tro::tro:

Danzig 06-17-2015 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1031861)
Don't forget that Zayat is not averse to making deals nor is Baffert shy about accepting appearance fees. Monmouth obviously is the target, but perhaps the lure of a more lucrative package, weaker competition, and more time off from the Belmont Stakes will win out. Canterbury is making a play, and it wouldn't be a shock to see an established second-tier Derby (i.e. West Virginia, Pennsylvania, or Indiana) follow suit. Certainly, the owners of past Triple Crown winners have been successfully hooked by such opportunistic one-offs (see Secretariat, see Seattle Slew).

Waiting for a later race would also cut down hope of a Travers start or a race against older horses before the BC Classic.

who would pass up appearance fees if it's a sensible spot? and if anything, they might say no anyhow, but it might make the track they're shooting for pony up some bucks to match the offer.
get it while you can.
unless you're cal chromes owner. then you're satan if you do it.

letswastemoney 06-18-2015 05:28 PM

I took a picture of American Pharoah and Victor this morning.


Kasept 06-18-2015 05:37 PM

American Pharoah might have public workout
By Steve Andersen

ARCADIA, Calif. – Triple Crown winner American Pharoah might have a workout between races on the June 27 card at Santa Anita, trainer Bob Baffert said Thursday.

American Pharoah, who was shipped Thursday from Kentucky to California, is scheduled to be at least paraded between races June 27, the day of the $500,000 Gold Cup at Santa Anita. Baffert said he wants to work American Pharoah that weekend and will speak with Santa Anita officials about the possibility of a public workout.

“That would be pretty cool,” Baffert said.

American Pharoah has not had a workout since his historic win in the Belmont Stakes at Belmont Park on June 6, when he became the first Triple Crown winner in 37 years. Owned by Ahmed Zayat, American Pharoah was paraded between races at Churchill Downs last Saturday in front of an enthusiastic crowd.

“They weren’t loud,” Baffert said of the audience. “They were taking pictures and getting close. That poor horse thought he was going over for the fourth leg [of the Triple Crown]. When he realized he wasn’t running, he relaxed.”

Arletta 06-18-2015 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1031966)
American Pharoah might have public workout
By Steve Andersen

ARCADIA, Calif. – Triple Crown winner American Pharoah might have a workout between races on the June 27 card at Santa Anita, trainer Bob Baffert said Thursday.

American Pharoah, who was shipped Thursday from Kentucky to California, is scheduled to be at least paraded between races June 27, the day of the $500,000 Gold Cup at Santa Anita. Baffert said he wants to work American Pharoah that weekend and will speak with Santa Anita officials about the possibility of a public workout.

“That would be pretty cool,” Baffert said.

American Pharoah has not had a workout since his historic win in the Belmont Stakes at Belmont Park on June 6, when he became the first Triple Crown winner in 37 years. Owned by Ahmed Zayat, American Pharoah was paraded between races at Churchill Downs last Saturday in front of an enthusiastic crowd.

“They weren’t loud,” Baffert said of the audience. “They were taking pictures and getting close. That poor horse thought he was going over for the fourth leg [of the Triple Crown]. When he realized he wasn’t running, he relaxed.”

I was wondering how it would affect him, and saw him getting a bit sweaty in the beginning. I know it's not a "common" thing for people to do with famous horses and often wonder what has to be going through a horses mind. I know they are schooled in the paddocks a lot and I suppose this helps get them accustomed to it all, but still.. Pharaoh must have been thinking "These people have lost their mind if they think I am running again today!"


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