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ontheoutside 08-13-2014 07:02 PM

lose 415 with all scratches
 
total now is 10,165
boy 15000 here we come
tommorrow thurs
2nd 3 20/40
3rd 1 40/80
4th 3 50/100
5th 10 100/200
6th 2 100/200
6th 2-4-5// all//4-7 5 pk 3
7th 6 100w
8th 4 40/80
9th 2 30/60
10th 3 1--/200
10th 3-6-7 30 ex bx
10th 3-6//3-6-7-8//all 5 dollar triple wheel

ontheoutside 08-13-2014 07:03 PM

opps 10th
 
should read 10th 3 100-200

ontheoutside 08-14-2014 05:31 PM

lose 8 grand by wisker in last at toga
 
look at that 10th race bet i had
incredible

well i lose another 1183 today
was 10,165

total 11,348

wow
and if you hear durkin he calls my play

ontheoutside 08-14-2014 07:42 PM

minus 11,348
 
fri
4th 4 100-200
5th 2 50-100
6th 2 50-100
10 6 50-100

one at mommouth 7th #11 50-100

geeker2 08-14-2014 07:46 PM

Go in hard and don't be scared !

declansharbor 08-14-2014 10:19 PM

OTO,

Serious question here, if (let's hope that we don't get there) the end of your alotted bankroll starts to get within sight, will you be changing the increments of your wagers? Or are you the all-in, swing for the fences type?

Either way, best of luck to you. Its been said here numerous times before, all it takes is one pop and it's a new ballgame.

dagolfer33 08-14-2014 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 992893)
Go in hard and don't be scared !

:D He has no fear, I'll give him that.

I would fear tremendously that my wife would ask me, "Where's that $11,000 we used to have in our bank account?" :mad:

:eek:

jms62 08-15-2014 04:04 AM

You have to respect that fact that he is seeing this through even though he is struggling. I am certainly rooting for him. I think it will be tough in the win place pools. 1 Good $100 Double hit would get him square. Look at Knicks and Point who are two of the best players here. They spend a lot of time in the doubles pool.

geeker2 08-15-2014 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 992907)
:D He has no fear, I'll give him that.

I would fear tremendously that my wife would ask me, "Where's that $11,000 we used to have in our bank account?" :mad:

:eek:

I would suggest your initial response should be "why Honey I spent it on strippers and whores". Then when she finds out it was only betting on horses she might give you a quickie :p

Go get um OTO !

dagolfer33 08-15-2014 01:46 PM

....back in the day coulda been all of the above.:)

ontheoutside 08-15-2014 03:33 PM

lots of questions from declan// dagolfer//geeker//jms
 
declanharbor you ask im a all in type of guy i alott my self a 15000 bankroll each year for saratoga
ive had to put in another 5000 3 times
ive been doing it for 23 years now since i retired
and beleive it or not im losing less then 3000 total for all these years
ive craped out 5 times
and ive won profitwise over 30 k 2 times
its fun for me im 84 years old now i got to do something to occupy my mind
on to dagolfer i dont need to worry about my wife at this stage of my life
she passed away about 8 yers ago in a car accident
so we dont have to worry about explaining much to anyone anymore
next question to geeker that one son made me laugh some got a chuckle out of that one
to jms respect respect from this end i amlooking at it your way as far as doubles and pks go maybe a couple catches and bang
the win stuff isnt going to help me at this stage i dont think

and lastly to all of you just thanks for talking during the day
having fun and lettinga old man get involved with the younger folk in here
i always respect people in here with there opinions
and im always rooting for anyone who live going into the last part of anything to the point that i find myself rooting for you horses rather then mine
you got to understand one thing about me
and this may sound like bragging but it really isnt
ive done well in life as far as money goes ive invested well and i dont have alot of expenses
everything is payed for
and i can afford tolose like this
not that i want too
and im not trying to sound like 15000 is a drop in the bucket
but im ok with money
i dont like to lose it but if i do ill be able to live tommorrow

hey look last year betting football 110 to 550 bets
i won over 32 k
its easy come easy go with me
thanks guys
a great site
with great guys you cant beat it

ontheoutside 08-15-2014 06:05 PM

streak is alive
 
lose 600 today

minus 11,948
for meet
ill send in tommorrow so you guys can get a look and scratch them off

jms62 08-16-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 993058)
declanharbor you ask im a all in type of guy i alott my self a 15000 bankroll each year for saratoga
ive had to put in another 5000 3 times
ive been doing it for 23 years now since i retired
and beleive it or not im losing less then 3000 total for all these years
ive craped out 5 times
and ive won profitwise over 30 k 2 times
its fun for me im 84 years old now i got to do something to occupy my mind
on to dagolfer i dont need to worry about my wife at this stage of my life
she passed away about 8 yers ago in a car accident
so we dont have to worry about explaining much to anyone anymore
next question to geeker that one son made me laugh some got a chuckle out of that one
to jms respect respect from this end i amlooking at it your way as far as doubles and pks go maybe a couple catches and bang
the win stuff isnt going to help me at this stage i dont think

and lastly to all of you just thanks for talking during the day
having fun and lettinga old man get involved with the younger folk in here
i always respect people in here with there opinions
and im always rooting for anyone who live going into the last part of anything to the point that i find myself rooting for you horses rather then mine
you got to understand one thing about me
and this may sound like bragging but it really isnt
ive done well in life as far as money goes ive invested well and i dont have alot of expenses
everything is payed for
and i can afford tolose like this
not that i want too
and im not trying to sound like 15000 is a drop in the bucket
but im ok with money
i dont like to lose it but if i do ill be able to live tommorrow

hey look last year betting football 110 to 550 bets
i won over 32 k
its easy come easy go with me
thanks guys
a great site
with great guys you cant beat it

Don't take it from me but look at 2 of the most consistent guys here, Pointman and Knicks. They are big into the doubles.

ontheoutside 08-16-2014 12:17 PM

ok here goes the saturday report
 
start laughing
2nd 2-6-9//4-5//3-6-11 6 pk 3
2nd 10//45//3-6-11 10 pk 3
2nd 2-6-9//4//3-6-11 10 pk3
2nd 10//4//all 10 pk 3

going race to race today no dialasis today

ontheoutside 08-16-2014 12:43 PM

3rd race
 
3rd 4-5//3-6-11//2-4-6-7 10 pk 3
3rd 4 100w

ontheoutside 08-16-2014 01:01 PM

sorry made a mistake
 
i meant the 1 in the 4th not 11
so where ever a 11 is in pk 3,s it should say the 1

ontheoutside 08-16-2014 01:27 PM

4th
 
4th 3-6-1//2-4-6-7//4-6 20 pk 3
4th 2-4-7 20 ex bx
4th 2 50 wp

ontheoutside 08-16-2014 02:02 PM

geez made another mistake
 
i got 247 in 4th it should be 5th
sorry ill correct

ontheoutside 08-16-2014 02:04 PM

post 97 is wrong
 
i got wrong race down
you can see where i made it
its NOT the 4th 2-4-7 20 ex bx
its NOT 50wp on 2

ITS THE 5TH RACE 2-4-7 20 EX BX
AND 2 50W/P
SORRY GUYS

ontheoutside 08-16-2014 02:09 PM

5th
 
5th 2-4-6-7//4-6-9//4-8-2 10pk3
5th 2-4-6-7//4-6-9//1 30 pk 3
5th 4-7//4-6 40 dd
5th 4-7//9 15dd

ontheoutside 08-16-2014 02:58 PM

6th
 
6th 4-6-9//4-8//1-4-6-9-10 10 pk 3
6th 4-6-9//1//1-4-6-9-10 30 pk 3
6th 9 20-40

ontheoutside 08-16-2014 03:18 PM

after 6 full races im up
 
bet so far 2713 got back 3434
plus 721 so far

jms62 08-16-2014 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 993326)
6th 4-6-9//4-8//1-4-6-9-10 10 pk 3
6th 4-6-9//1//1-4-6-9-10 30 pk 3
6th 9 20-40

Why don't you play with us on the selections thread and update this at the end of the day. Great group of guys over there.

ontheoutside 08-17-2014 11:19 AM

completely even for sat
 
so im still 11,948 minus
1st 2-5-8-9//2-4-//1-7-9 20 pk 3 480
1st 8-9//2-5-4- 40 dd 240
1st 2-5//2-4 50 dd 200

2nd 2-4-5//2-4-5//2-4-5-3- 10 triple 120

thats it for 1st two

total 1040
lets see what happens early

casp0555 08-17-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 993346)
Why don't you play with us on the selections thread and update this at the end of the day. Great group of guys over there.

:tro:

ontheoutside 08-17-2014 12:43 PM

on to 3rd sun
 
after 2 races minus 630

was 11,948 going in
so total now is 12,578

3rd 1-7-9//4//7-3 50 pk 3 300
3rd 1-7-9//3 //7-3 20 pk 3 120
3rd 1-7-9//1-5-6//7-3 10 pk 3 180
3rd 1-7-9//4//2-4-5-8 7 pk 3 84

total 684

my miss storm cat 08-17-2014 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 993546)
after 2 races minus 630

This is none of my business, Sir.

I have followed along, for the most part, but am sure I've skipped a day or a couple of posts.

While I know you have a bankroll specifically for the Spa, can afford to keep going and enjoy wagering I am wondering if you've considered taking a couple of days off. It's just seeing the minus 600. plus after two races that makes me even bother to post so sorry if it seems like I am overstepping any invisible line!

My biggest problem (besides sucking!) was beginning to be discipline. I felt like if I had capped the card I should damned well play it cause what if...

So I am having a bit of a break, only playing the occasional race at Saratoga anyway as I can't seem to do much of anything right there.

No one suggested this to me but I'm finding it not-so-terrible to cap and then sit it out (for now. When it's time for the tracks I do better at I will stop this silliness).

Besides it seems like the jocks at the Spa have all been infected... who knew stupidity was contagious.

Anyway, continued good luck to you. Figured it was okay to be the bad guy here and am not meaning to disrespect your capping abilities in the slightest.

Just thought, as I've recalled seeing some "go all the way" type of posts, I'd give you the other option and say maybe consider sitting out, not playing every single race every day or wait for the bigger days and then go in guns blazing (Huh? I have never used that expression before :D ).

Good luck. I will look forward to your posts after you have had a phenomenal day.

ontheoutside 08-17-2014 01:39 PM

to miss storm cat
 
well thats olful nice of you to even concider giving me advice

and good advice to boot
its been a rough meet for me at the spa
but other bets since beginning of year have been ok
i dont post to much what i bet during the year in here
but i chart everything i bet from sports bets to horses

and beleive it or not going in to july 18th with all tracks from jan 1st to that date when saratoga started
i was on the plus side 6,694 just horses

i admit i dont do very weel at spa recently but ive had some doozy years
where ive crushed
i look at it as balancing it out i guess
i think sometimes people see the huge number and and say wow
step back
but if yo tallyup everything since jan 1st im down about 6000 for year in horses
i play every day
so about 230 days so far 28 dollars a day im losing
thats how i look at it

im not counting the sports betting which i have done pretty well in last 5 years
so i tend to think looking at a number of now over 12,000
it makes people wonder
but i do thank you for advice

and one other reason i like to play
i dont know your age or your postition in life
im 84 years old
so , i figure i really cant sit out to many

2nd i find it keeps my mind sharp win lose or draw
reading and capping
and 3rdly it occupies my day and beleive me at my age you need to be occupied especially living alone now

but i do thank you and i only wish good things for you when you get back in
i do remember you have good opinons

ontheoutside 08-17-2014 01:41 PM

4th race
 
4th 4//3-7//2-5-9 50 pk 3 300
4th 4//37//9 100 pk 3 200

ontheoutside 08-17-2014 01:55 PM

5th sun
 
5th 3-7//1-2-9//4 100 pk 3 600
5th 3-7 ///1-2-9//3 50 pk 3 300
5th 3-7// 1-2-9//2-9 25 pk 3 300

total 1200

ADJMK 08-17-2014 02:19 PM

$50 pick three you're on a roll

jms62 08-17-2014 02:27 PM

$1295 Sure beats Win/Place. Nice work

ontheoutside 08-17-2014 02:34 PM

ok got a nice hit
 
hit the pk 3 i played in 3rd for 2587

so figure was 12,578
with 684 in 3rd
500 in 4th
1200 in 5th
all bets added up to

14.962
-- 2587 for pk 3 hit in 3rd

new fig is 12,375
and all my bets in 4th [500] and 5th[1200] are included

onto the 6th
6th 9//3-4//1-8 60 pk 3 240
6th 9//9//1-8 40 pk 3 80
6th 2-5// 2-3-4-9//6-1-8 20 pk3 480
6th 2-9-5//3-4-9//1-6-8 10 pk3 270
cost 1070

ontheoutside 08-17-2014 02:50 PM

did i screw up jms?
 
i thought my pk 3 ending in 3rd payed me 2587

you got me hitting for 1295


i must have read it wrong i thought it payed 103.50and i got it 25 times
im terrible at math

could someone confirm if i am wrong here?

jms62 08-17-2014 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 993599)
i thought my pk 3 ending in 3rd payed me 2587

you got me hitting for 1295


i must have read it wrong i thought it payed 103.50and i got it 25 times
im terrible at math

could someone confirm if i am wrong here?

You were wrong but no worries cause you hit the pick 3 into the 6th 150 times:tro:

Kitan 08-17-2014 02:57 PM

:tro::tro::tro::tro: I'm playing your numbers the rest of the day OTO.

ontheoutside 08-17-2014 03:00 PM

im getting confused
 
going back to the 3rd race pk 3 i hit

i played a 50 dollar pk 3

the pk 3 payed 103.50

so wouldnt i get that 25 times

meaning i would have won 2587?

a freind said i only win 1295

im confused

jms62 08-17-2014 03:00 PM

You Are Now Up on the Meet

:tro:

jms62 08-17-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 993607)
going back to the 3rd race pk 3 i hit

i played a 50 dollar pk 3

the pk 3 payed 103.50

so wouldnt i get that 25 times

meaning i would have won 2587?

a freind said i only win 1295

im confused


They report it at $1 not $2

You hit over 12K ending into the 6th

ontheoutside 08-17-2014 03:02 PM

im not doing the figs yet because i think im doing them wrong
 
can anyone confirm my winnings for the 3rd race k 3?
is it 2587 or 1295?
thanks a bunch


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