Arab League agrees with Kerry on Assad chemical weapons use – but not military action.



http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...ry-action?lite

Obama speaks to the nation day b4 9/11...

It would appear that hackers are making their case for not bombing Syria over at Thoroughbred Champions. :D

Wonder if this will work..:tro:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...rt-attack?lite

does anyone know, has anyone seen, why obama is so hell-bent on this strike? what's going on that he sees, that no one else sees, that makes this such a desired action?

Dunno, maybe he's getting on site intell from our spies on the ground...can't talk about covert actions..:p

Diane Sawyer had couple min interview with Obama on eve news...sounded upbeat on Russia/Syria talks on disposal of chem weapons...right now he's a big loser in the House, as is being reported..

Maybe being an eight year old and taking a breath and feeling funny and keeling over and dyeing.

what?


yeah, bigrun, some skeptics are already wondering if the syria/russia chemical discussion had already occurred before kerry said anything.
i don't know. all i know is i find it odd that after a couple of years of civil war, thousands dead, millions displaced, that a chemical attack is what brings us to demand an attack?
someone on another site keeps saying 'the next attack will kill 20,000'. i asked where that number came from, that they kept citing...i'll let you know when i get an answer.

http://news.msn.com/us/obama-i-might...-vote-on-syria


obama, says he knows he might not get the votes in congress, no word on what he'd do if they vote against a strike.

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d28...79be58ccea8aa8

Sep. 10, 2013 7:10 AM ET

France seeks UN action on Syria after Russia move

By LORI HINNANT By LORI HINNANT


PARIS (AP) — France announced Tuesday it will put forward a resolution in the U.N. Security Council aimed at forcing Syria to ultimately dismantle its chemical weapons program, seizing on a diplomatic opening from Syrian ally Russia amid Western threats of force against President Bashar Assad's regime.

France, a permanent member of the 15-nation council, will start the resolution process on Tuesday under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter, which is militarily enforceable, Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told reporters at a quickly arranged news conference.

The proposal would also condemn a chemical weapons attack near Damascus on Aug. 21 that Western powers allege was carried out by Assad's regime — a claim he has denied.




....sounds good to me. if it goes thru. if syria isn't just doing this to delay, but never follows thru.

by the way, does china watch the news? know what's going on in the middle east? :


In Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said of the Russian proposal: "As long as it eases the tension and helps maintain Syrian and regional peace and stability, and helps politically settle the issue, the global community should consider it positively."
there's peace and stability in syria and the region?

Please . . . the President needs our support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ#t=28

:tro::tro:

:D..WWIII will be everywhere, Russia, China and Cincinnati:D

hey, if a coup isn't a coup, a war isn't a war. sounds fair to me.

You watch Colbert last nite?...funny bit on Syria and Faux whackos pulling a what would Reagan do:D...

http://www.colbertnation.com/full-ep...llie-jean-king

not yet.
i dvr and watch later. some time this evening probably.

Dang it, why 9pm for his speech, why not 8..Rizzoli and Isles final show is at 9..i'll catch Obama later on Fox highlights.:D

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED....or something like that---Obama

didn't watch the speech.
did see a 'breaking news' on my homepage at one point tho, where obama said 'syria represents danger to our national security'.

i don't suppose he explained how? still haven't seen an explanation on that one. saying it doesn't make it so.


http://news.msn.com/us/analysis-obam...-publics-trust

'trust me'.

seriously? i always look askance at someone when they say 'trust me'. or 'you can't miss it' for that matter...at any rate, why would anyone trust obama at this point? hey, mr pres, lay it all out. don't just say 'chemical weapons, we need to strike'. give details. why do we need to strike? how is it a matter of our national security? why do you keep pushing this, when no one else is?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._congress.html

President Obama’s address about his Syria policy felt like the policy itself at times. He went ahead with it just because he promised he would. The purpose of the East Room address was to rally the country and members of Congress to support a military strike against Syria, but the Congressional vote to do so has been postponed while a possible diplomatic solution is pursued. So the president’s speech was like delivering a locker room speech after the rain delay had been called.

But in keeping with the apparent rule that every aspect of this policy must have a contradiction, the president argued that the threat of military force must remain credible to keep diplomacy alive. Assad will give up chemical weapons only if he believes he’ll receive Tomahawk missiles if he doesn’t. But the only way that can be done at present—since Obama has made it clear he won’t act without Congress—is with a Congressional vote supporting military strikes. But that vote has been postponed—at the president’s request—while diplomacy is pursued. Because the president was almost certain to lose such a vote, not having Congress weigh in was the best way to keep the pressure on.

So if I'm clear, killing 100's of thousands of people, mostly civilians and children with guns and bombs is totally cool, but gassing them is what is keeping Obama up all night.

2 years into this and now he needs to preempt "The Bachelor - Funniest Moments" to plead his case?! Has he no shame?!!

Maybe that's why we haven't intervened in Africa yet - no nerve gas. Makes complete sense now.

And from the White House News Agency (RE: MSM), much like a vampire from True Blood "glamming" his victims, 61% of Americans now magically support his position. LOL.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0....html?hp=l3_b1

When they took the poll last night at dinner, wonder whether it was Sasha, Malia or the butler that did not support the position?

And by the way which position are we talking about? Supporting the attack before not supporting the attack? Geez a bit of deja vu going on here.

yeah, apparently bombs are civilized. why it matter how one dies when caught in crossfire is beyond me.
their civil war has gone on for years, we don't need to get involved. do i feel bad for the innocent victims? yes, just like i do for innocent victims everywhere else. but how this is somehow involving our national security is beyond me. what tests does it meet that other areas of the world don't?

Apparently we have drones that can sniff out coffee can-sized canisters of Sarin gas and obliterate them with sidewinder missiles without causing any damage or injury/death to civilians.

Then they can go back to killing each other the old fashioned way.

hey, i saw the squidbillies episode with the drones.....they aren't as good as we think they are. :D

http://news.msn.com/world/us-russia-...emical-weapons


deal reached!

:tro: Good start..

To what? :zz:

Pretty much sums it up.

http://communities.washingtontimes.c...nd-al-zawahri/

Post by John Cole, balloon-juice's site owner.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/09/17/long-overdue-3/

Good stuff about the way media will spin things.

Cole, by the way, served in the first Iraq war, and used to be very, very right-wing (which is when I first started reading him).

EDIT: This is not to say that I generally love the US's foreign policy, as I don't. But I think the military industrial complex is bigger than any one person, unfortunately.

yes, it is very large.
and when you say 'shrink the military' people freak out. i don't think they realize how big that albatross is that we have hanging around our collective necks.

as for the foreign policy...it's been off the rails for decades. i think since ww2, before it ended really.

To most people "Shrink the Military" means we will be invaded.:zz:

DHS which never even existed 12 years ago, is the 2nd largest funded cabinet dept after DoD, costing us 60 billion dollars a year.

Sixty Thousand Million dollars.

A year.

For "Homeland Security".

Anyone else feel like they're getting their money's worth? :zz:

Strange that when Bush was President the military wasn't described as bigger than one man yet under Obama it suddenly is.

I forgot it was Obama's military when bin-Laden was killed and only became bigger than one man when the Nobel Peace Prize recipient started performing a solo on his war drum. :wf

Dell, I'm confused.... shouldnt you be happy that we are not bombing Syria at the moment?

He was for Not bombing Syria when it looked like we were going to Bomb Syria. Now that cooler heads prevail he is for bombing Syria. Really easy to follow as he is the Yang to Obama's Ying.

I have a cartoon for that..btw, if the Russian disposal plan works, guess who will be next years Nobel Peace Prize winner:zz: