I got the sense from Hellmers that despite building the lead through the day, he never felt comfortable. I think he was girding himself against the possibility of the repeat an anguishing beat... and he was right. That McGoey did it a second year in a row is one of the most remarkable, implausible results imaginable.

I didn't realize that I hadn't commented yet about the show.. I didn't get to it until Wednesday and enjoyed it. Early highlight was scene at Belmont track kitchen Morning Line with Conte where the great (sometime jock agent) Winston Heslop was hanging out. Was sad seeing St. Nicholas Abbey and Ramon in spots. Thought despite the minor glitches and simplified betting conversation that it was entertaining and a good start.

Conte seems like a very likable guy.

That teller is actually a teller at NYRA for 40 years.....

I worked at NYRA from 1978-1991; I thought he looked familiar, but don't remember his name.

Much better than SOU. Getting to like the east coast crew, but Helmers is what i call an E A (egotistical ******* ), mugging ,playing to the camera and trying to be joe cool. Liked Beychok as down to earth nice guy, very likeable and Conte reminds me of a departed mentor who knew hiss horses and liked to entertain. Better episode this time around.

Sal. I've known him for years. Very nice man.

Some bio, that.

I'm a little surprised Betfair decided on someone so off the wall, to pitch betting exchanges with.

I love the last paragraph of that bio.

I'll be at Coachella the same weekend as the Santa Anita Derby. Wonder how much Hellmers actually cares about that race or if he might be at the fest lol? Although Burning Man is way different, Coachella is an hour or so down the I-10

Hellmers and xchange wagering at monmouth
 

Monmouth Park and New Jersey horsemen are on to something big. Really big. If things go as planned this spring, the 2014 New Jersey Thoroughbred horse racing season could catapult the venerable New Jersey track into the annals of American horse racing history.

The track plans to offer a revolutionary form of wagering of European origin that may change the face of horse racing in the United States forever. It’s called exchange wagering and it is termed by professional horseplayer Christian Hellmers as nothing less than “euphoric.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/hors...-monmouth-park

Hellmers can be taken more seriously
when he doesn't wear that stupid headband

His record alone should make you take him seriously. He is different California Metaphysical type guy but we all have our quirks.

Yeah, I know.

Tues nite staple, NCIS,NCIS LA and Person of Interest..I get two CBS stations, one out of NC and the other VA and during basketball season if a NC team is playing VA team BOTH stations carry the bb game:mad: and i get shutout..
Late last nite i watched a little of horseplayers and late this afternoon it was on again with same episode..

Any chance that metaphysical stuff is a put-on? I would think he would lean more on the number crunching side of what he does than "checking in with his subconscious"...

Different strokes for different folks.

From: christianhellmers.com

This is the first step to you becoming a sharper horseplayer...

Betting is not just risking money, it's you putting your mind to the test of Truth.

Here are 3 concepts to consider...

Treat your betting mindset as if you are an Olympic athlete

* Be willing to be great and make sacrifices to win (ie working hard)

* Take the little details seriously and examine every horse carefully, inside and out, turn the race over in your mind several times to become one with it ;-)

* Limit distractions from noise to people to alcohol to false prophets

* Develop a routine of best practices that work based on your preferences to keep you at your highest focused self ie listening to music, drinking water, tracking your decisions

Be prepared far in advance

* Do not wait until the day of the races to begin your analysis

* Analyze and take notes in a way that you can revisit at a later time for post mordum

* Increase concentration by eating well the night before and the day, blue green algae, vegetables, foods high in Omega 3/6 will increase brain function, plus liquid B vitamins

* Map out your betting strategy and scenarios hours before each race

* Hire someone to help you manage your betting software if you don't know how to write code

* Study the patterns that lead to your highest ROI

Accurately translate and express your brain on paper

* Ascertain the probabilities of the horses you intend to wager upon and to bet against

* Locate your key calls in terms of A, B, C, and D in each race

* Based on your expected value of a race, assess whether to bet or pass; if the value is average, then consider saving your bet for a more lucrative opportunity

* Determine the best way to distribute your mindset on paper ie 50% on A bet call in a race, 25% on B call in a race, 20% on C call in a race, 10% of betting dollars on a D call in a race

* Set your targeted payouts in advance based on your bankroll and wager to hit your number OR bet based on using the Kelly equation IF you can accurately predict your probabilities

* In a tournament, bet as if your life depends on it and swing for the fences on your strongest opinion with the greatest value!

* Smile and give thanks after you win or lose to allow yourself to be in harmony with the moment!

Bless up,

Christian

Sounds like a lot of smart stuff to me.

Underestimating Christian Hellmers because you think he's a little goofy is a mistake. We're all a little goofy. Few of us are as smart and knowledgeable as he is.

Totally agree Andy!

The guy doesn't have his own website and spot on Horseplayers because he is a no talent.

I find it funny people can't get past the headband. My impression is he comes to the track and a contest fully prepared.

So we get good race calls from Durkin and Collmus but a voice over for Denman. Wonder if he didnt give them the right or whomever owns the copyright, to use it

Classic scene with Arlene Conte stirring the gravy and preparing the meatballs. Priceless!!

I don't think it is a put on but I agree with you that it factors zero in his handicapping. Makes for good TV though.

This is fantastic stuff.

never smoked the Blue green Algae, wonder if its as good as the blueberry diesel ? Funny last night when Larry David's sidekick bet on the 7 hoss, who wired at a good price. Before the race he said he was a closer, meanwhile that 23 year old newbie was convinced the 9 hoss was lone speed and looked ill when the 7 hoss made the lead. I think we all know that feeling.

I thought I screwed up by not having win money on Flowing Mane at 16/1 that day, but Team Rotondo messed it up way worse.

I don't understand how having $20 to win on a 41/1 shot got him only $410 -- and merely moved him into 47th place after the race.

He should have been credited with more than double that, and would have been a lot closer than 47th place after hitting a 41/1 shot with his 1st play of day #2.

It doesn't even add up.

Maybe they cap the win payout at $40.00? If that's the case, wouldn't he have $400 instead of $410?

Even when you try to just watch the show, and not investigate the odds, they do stuff like that in the production that makes absolutely no sense at all.

I think I saw they cap you at $42 per $2, but don't quote me on that.

That would make it $420 and not $410 if that's the case...and it would kind of defeat the purpose of taking 40/1 shots ...

although, I guess if you're 0-for-10 on the first day, you kind of have to be desperate from a strategy standpoint and chase after a crazy horse to get caught up. People in that spot have no choice but to look for something in the 15-to-1 to 20-1 range ... as opposed to the 40-1 range, but hey, if you hit with the 40/1 you're about the only person pulling a Lazarus, and catapulting your way into contention, instead of numerous people doing it with the 15/1 to 20/1.

The win odds in the NYRA tournaments are capped at 15-1, so he must have had $90 from something on Day 1.

I imagine about 95% of the show is revisionist history, and another 4% is just embellished or outright false.

That's interesting.

I know Pat Cummings is dying to hit his caps lock button again and remind us all that "THIS SHOW ISN'T FOR ANY OF YOU!"

However, how can you possibly spend the better part of an hour reviewing a tournament and not mentioning something so critical to strategy as what the odds are capped at?

It's something that would take 4 seconds to mention, and 12 seconds to explain.

Seems like Pete Sr. really likes to be in front of the camera.

I can't blame him for that. He's having a great time. 23-year-old Russian blonde. On Reality TV. And he still gets to keep his AARP discounts and social security checks.

I'm pretty envious of that.

i havent seen that many drf jockeys 'beating the knee with the drf to get your horse up' in along time..like the show though..that belmont tourney looks fun.

Even with all the little things that dont make sense...gotta love that show.. It certainly keeps me interested thru out....

The show's hilarious. When the guy at the end says "Who's this jerkoff Cox? Fake cowboy...I don't even know how he won the tournament." That's some funny stuff...I like the show so far.

Bless Up ? Who knew ? :)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=bless%20up

I find the show incredibly entertaining.

I'm not checking the "real" odds or whatever actually happened. It's an entertaining show, on television, about betting on horses. That's phenomenal! I have several emotions about the players, some I like, some I loathe, based on the way they are portrayed. It is enjoyable to watch...good enough for me. Live and let live.

I dont find it particularly good. It's OK at best

If you can somewhat ignore the bad editing, it's entertaining. Got to meet some of the characters in Vegas last week. Funny to watch in person too...

Crist thinks it works pretty well: http://www.drf.com/news/steven-crist...-rates-overlay