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Coach Pants 10-30-2012 11:41 AM

Obviously the Mainstream Media is trustworthy and represents what this country stands for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9WCnh0r44c

That never happened.

But lets get fu.cking heated when the conservative sites go off the ledge.

You ***** liberals are going to gladly give up your guns...then your freedom of speech.

Tell you what ***** Californian punk who is the shining example of the emasculation of white men in this country...

You are nothing. A useful idiot for evil and darkness and you're too god-damned dense to realize it.

Might as well move to Russia, punk.

hi_im_god 10-30-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 899249)
You know it all, smug puss.y of a man.


Now you want us to believe the mainstream media is credible. I mean this sincerely, you fuc.king pond scum imbecile...

May you be wrong a billion times, ****. And may it come at your door and sweep you away so I don't have to read any more of your Super Government Limp-Wristed Chevy VOlt driving nonsense.

(thumps chest)

(grunts)

bigrun 10-30-2012 01:45 PM

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Now you want us to believe the mainstream media is credible
Yes they are, at least compared to GOP Headquarters aka Fox news..:p

Rudeboyelvis 10-30-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 899268)
Yes they are, at least compared to GOP Headquarters aka Fox news..:p

Have you ever posted a lucid, credible thought that is germane to the conversation? Ever?

bigrun 10-30-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 899270)
Have you ever posted a lucid, credible thought that is germane to the conversation? Ever?

See post #4,#5,#7,#13,#15(best response),#16,#19,#21,#29(not mine but good one),#37,#51,#68,#78,#83(2nd best)...all germane to the conversation as weak as it is..

What, you can't handle the truth?

Quote:

Yes they are, at least compared to GOP Headquarters aka Fox news

Rudeboyelvis 10-30-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 899276)
See post #4,

got as far as the first one - a cut and paste of an ancient chain e-mail about what is or isn't on a piece of jewelery Obama may or may not own. Wonderfully insightful.


Thanks for proving my point.


BTW, while we're on the topic of old people and their email habits - is it a rule that everybody over the age of 75 can't have any filters on their email?

This is like the sh1t my dad forwards me.

bigrun 10-30-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 899281)
got as far as the first one - a cut and paste of an ancient chain e-mail about what is or isn't on a piece of jewelery Obama may or may not own. Wonderfully insightful.


Thanks for proving my point.


BTW, while we're on the topic of old people and their email habits - is it a rule that everybody over the age of 75 can't have any filters on their email?

This is like the sh1t my dad forwards me.


That sh1t email and hundreds like it come from my rightwing whacko hate Obama buds, three of them are vets and love to pound sand...I always respond with the facts..:tro:..Do that with your dad if you have any, facts that is...I like your dad but he did a lousy job on you...:)...and i know you read all those posts..:p

Coach Pants 10-31-2012 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 899263)
(thumps chest)

(grunts)

"The mainstream media is credible I'm a little sissy who tries to act smart on the internet but really I'm a knuckle-dragging ********** who hates my own race."

Coach Pants 10-31-2012 07:43 AM

it's hilarious because hi i'm god is a real skinny bald sissy of a man. He thinks because he's bald and wears glasses that he's smart.

Because lets face it he can't be dashing looking like a blind chemo patient.

Your whole gene pool is inferior. The liberal party gave the weak a voice. And now this sissy and Cryin Dispencer lift their pinkies in the air, take a sip, throw in a cute little one liner and smirk their way into relevancy.

It's part of the division process to tear this country apart.

I'll oblige on this subset because they're the problem. They take orders, don't give them..


O-baaaaaaah-ma. Trust everything from the government if someone with a D at the end of their name tells you to.

hi_im_god 10-31-2012 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 899384)
"The mainstream media is credible I'm a little sissy who tries to act smart on the internet but really I'm a knuckle-dragging ********** who hates my own race."

(pounds ground angrily)

(throws poo)

dalakhani 10-31-2012 09:47 AM

Romney has run a pretty good campaign and has pulled close. At this point in time, what relevance does all of this birther crap have? The trumps and palins of the world promote this garbage and it hurts Romney. It hurts the republican party.

The issues are out there and there are plenty of things this admin has done to criticize. It seems silly to me to divert attention from those issues to focus on his transcripts which most moderates couldn't care less about. Aren't those the votes romney needs? He already has the votes of the tea party people and they are the only ones that seem to care.

Don't get me wrong- I am voting Obama and I couldn't be more pleased every time Sarah palin opens her mouth and reminds the country what the republican party has become. This trump nonsense was better than any ads Obama could pay for. At the same time, have any of you right wingers considered that maybe this birther topic needs to be put to bed and that just maybe it is hurting your guy? Just sayin

hi_im_god 10-31-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 899397)
Romney has run a pretty good campaign and has pulled close. At this point in time, what relevance does all of this birther crap have? The trumps and palins of the world promote this garbage and it hurts Romney. It hurts the republican party.

The issues are out there and there are plenty of things this admin has done to criticize. It seems silly to me to divert attention from those issues to focus on his transcripts which most moderates couldn't care less about. Aren't those the votes romney needs? He already has the votes of the tea party people and they are the only ones that seem to care.

Don't get me wrong- I am voting Obama and I couldn't be more pleased every time Sarah palin opens her mouth and reminds the country what the republican party has become. This trump nonsense was better than any ads Obama could pay for. At the same time, have any of you right wingers considered that maybe this birther topic needs to be put to bed and that just maybe it is hurting your guy? Just sayin

anyone who still believed the birther crap as late as 2009 would never be convinced by evidence. they're lifers.

but it's a topic that only works in favor of the democrats. the more the republicans tie themselves to something that causes a gag reflex in rational people, the better.

so shhhh.

Coach Pants 10-31-2012 10:35 AM

People who believe the birth certificate are authentic are morons. Pure and simple.

You don't have a shred of undeniable proof that he is. But that is beside the point.

The birther issue was created by the people who choose Presidents. Yes they do exist.

Obama's existence is to primarily destroy the foundations of this country and give money to muslim extremists. It doesn't matter if he was born in the most patriotic place in America.

He is anything but a patriot. And the media is complicit in his agenda. Right after the consulate attacks he used a youtube documentary to get a discussion going about free speech. Indirectly where you can't tie him to it. The true believers/cult followers need absolute evidence.

People not knee-deep in the two party cult tend to see through it. Dealing with people like hi_i'm_god is pointless. He thinks the msm, the same one that shows dancing with the stars after news, is credible.

Clown shoes.

Riot 10-31-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 899385)
it's hilarious because hi i'm god is a real skinny bald sissy of a man. He thinks because he's bald and wears glasses that he's smart.

Why are you quoting the recent right-wing conservative Twitter attack on Nate Silver virtually verbatim?

Riot 10-31-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 899399)
anyone who still believed the birther crap as late as 2009 would never be convinced by evidence. they're lifers.

but it's a topic that only works in favor of the democrats. the more the republicans tie themselves to something that causes a gag reflex in rational people, the better.

so shhhh.

I'm most interested in this election result in Congress:

Only about 30-36% of Americans rate themselves as proudly associated with the most extreme elements of the 2012 version of the John Birch Society: ObamaHateMuslimKenyanSocialist stuff

So that leaves a huge center gap of "rational Republicans" who recoiled in horror at the GOP primary freak show of Bachmann, Perry, Gingrich, plus abhorrence for truly extreme crazy folks like Alan West, Steve King, Joe Walsh.

They probably voted McCain 2008 - but Romney? They've watched the last four years of House-Senate GOP sabotage against everything, and they are not happy. Government needs two parties and cooperation to work (like Christie working with Obama in the face of disaster)

I can't wait to see if the Tea Bag 36% can hold their congressional seats, or if rationality will overtake the non-TeaBag portion of the remaining GOP that now calls themselves "independents".

Obama will win, that's a given. He's got every swing state but NC. The Senate will remain Democratic.

It's the 25 seat difference in the House that will reveal which way this nation wants to go.

Antitrust32 10-31-2012 03:13 PM

I dont get this "every swing state" stuff.


I mean, Romney might have a better chance in Florida than Obama at this point.

Or is Florida not a swing state now?

GBBob 10-31-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 899476)
I dont get this "every swing state" stuff.


I mean, Romney might have a better chance in Florida than Obama at this point.

Or is Florida not a swing state now?

The only definition of a swing state I ever heard was from Carville and he said that a swing state is a state the candidate can't win the election w/out taking. So Ohio would be a swing state for both, Florida more for Romney, Michigan is one for Obama, etc..

Danzig 10-31-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 899483)
The only definition of a swing state I ever heard was from Carville and he said that a swing state is a state the candidate can't win the election w/out taking. So Ohio would be a swing state for both, Florida more for Romney, Michigan is one for Obama, etc..

a swing state is a state with no clear party majority-in an election, it can 'swing' either way. some states vote purely demo or rep, regardless of candidate. swing states, you never know til the votes are counted.

Riot 10-31-2012 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 899476)
I dont get this "every swing state" stuff.


I mean, Romney might have a better chance in Florida than Obama at this point.

Or is Florida not a swing state now?

Swing states are states that are not "safe" for a candidate. Illinois is obviously "safe Obama" and Texas is "safe Romney".

There are 10 swing states, now only eight. The eight left, that will determine the election, are OH, NH, FL, PA, NC, IA, NV, CO. All those states are now leaning Obama in aggregate polling except NC, which should be pretty sure for Romney.

Obama started with more "safe Obama" states than Romney had "safe Romney" states. Obama was always over 270 electoral votes. Romney was always in the position of having to win votes to get to 270, and still is.

Obama only had to win 1 or 2 swing states to assure victory. Romney always had to win virtually all of them to win.

Florida has had overwhelming (greater than 2008 numbers) early turnout, nearly all Democratic. Florida is in "likely Obama" column.

TPM.com has a good polling page, where they aggregate the polls, and an excellent reputation for accuracy. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ click on "polls" in the header

Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight.com page also has excellent, accurate analysis of swing states. www.fivethirtyeight.com

dellinger63 10-31-2012 05:30 PM

with Romney donating his own money and asking for donations from his supporters for the Red Cross while Obama ate his free sandwich from the Red Cross and donating taxpayer money today made my point!

bigrun 10-31-2012 05:31 PM

Who's the boss?






Rudeboyelvis 10-31-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 899490)
Swing states are states that are not "safe" for a candidate. Illinois is obviously "safe Obama" and Texas is "safe Romney".

There are 10 swing states, now only eight. The eight left, that will determine the election, are OH, NH, FL, PA, NC, IA, NV, CO. All those states are now leaning Obama in aggregate polling except NC, which should be pretty sure for Romney.

Obama started with more "safe Obama" states than Romney had "safe Romney" states. Obama was always over 270 electoral votes. Romney was always in the position of having to win votes to get to 270, and still is.

Obama only had to win 1 or 2 swing states to assure victory. Romney always had to win virtually all of them to win.

Florida has had overwhelming (greater than 2008 numbers) early turnout, nearly all Democratic.

TPM.com has a good polling page, where they aggregate the polls, and an excellent reputation for accuracy. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ click on "polls" in the header

Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight.com page also has excellent, accurate analysis of swing states. www.fivethirtyeight.com

You've been touting this as though it was a fact for some time. It isn't true. I don't know what you have to gain by continuing to spout this. Furthermore, to echo Anti's point, any state that is +/- 2 or less points is hardly "likely" or "leaning" either direction.

Obama has always had no more than 259 EC votes. When he lost FL, he has been hovering around 235. He's currently 237.

This is the fact:




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Florida is in "likely Obama" column.
Oh, I see. It's your delusions.

Rupert Pupkin 10-31-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 899515)
with Romney donating his own money and asking for donations from his supporters for the Red Cross while Obama ate his free sandwich from the Red Cross and donating taxpayer money today made my point!

Do you know what most liberals think? I'm not making this up. I am serious. Granted I'm talking in general. It's not true for all liberals but in general liberals think that they don't need to give money to charity. They think that simply voting democrat is enough. They feel like they have done their part by voting democrat. They think that if they vote democrat that makes them a good person and no further action is necessary. It's actually kind of funny. They think that if they vote democrat and are vocal about how evil they think republicans are, this makes them a good person and no further good deeds are necessary.

I bet I could do a great job on this site of predicting which people are the least generous when it comes to donating money to charity. I'm not going to mention any names but I would say that in general, if you look at the most outspoken and angry liberals, it would be a safe bet to say that these people gave little or no money to charity.

alysheba4 10-31-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 899519)
Do you know what most liberals think? I'm not making this up. I am serious. What I'm about to say is a generalization. It's not true for all liberals but in general liberals think that they don't need to give money to charity. They think that simply voting democrat is enough. They feel like they have done their part by voting democrat. They think that if they vote democrat that makes them a good person and no further action is necessary.

I bet I could do a great job on this site of predicting which people are the least generous when it comes to donating money to charity. I'm not going to mention any names but I would say that in general, if you look at the most outspoken and angry liberals, it would be a safe bet to say that these people gave little or no money to charity.

.....they are complete fcking whack jobs.

dellinger63 10-31-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 899519)
Do you know what most liberals think? I'm not making this up. I am serious. What I'm about to say is a generalization. It's not true for all liberals but in general liberals think that they don't need to give money to charity. They think that simply voting democrat is enough. They feel like they have done their part by voting democrat. They think that if they vote democrat that makes them a good person and no further action is necessary.

I bet I could do a great job on this site of predicting which people are the least generous when it comes to donating money to charity. I'm not going to mention any names but I would say that in general, if you look at the most outspoken and angry liberals, it would be a safe bet to say that these people gave little or no money to charity.

Clinton wrote off used underwear.

Biden gave less than $500 on $500K

And Riot is looking for someone to subsidize her insurance.

Of course she cares so much about womens' right to abortion and contraceptive coverage she ignores the lifetime ramifications of a gang rape by saying 'she'll be OK!'

Generally they are the epitomy of hypocrites no doubt!

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-31-2012 05:56 PM

hes saving his money to fix the mug on that dog ugly wife of his..

dellinger63 10-31-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 899524)
hes saving his money to fix the mug on that dog ugly wife of his..

She'll leave him.

BTW He's on the down low. That's why Bubba can't stand him.

bigrun 10-31-2012 06:20 PM

SALON today..

Blue states of Michigan, Minnesota and Pennsylvania. On a conference call today David Axelrod promised to shave his moustache of 40 years if Obama lost any of those states, and while he wouldn’t quite go that far on the question of Virginia, he said he was “confident” the president would carry that swing state, too...


and i'll shave my beard if he loses...somebody loan me a straight razor?:)

Rupert Pupkin 10-31-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 899534)
SALON today..

Blue states of Michigan, Minnesota and Pennsylvania. On a conference call today David Axelrod promised to shave his moustache of 40 years if Obama lost any of those states, and while he wouldn’t quite go that far on the question of Virginia, he said he was “confident” the president would carry that swing state, too...


and i'll shave my beard if he loses...somebody loan me a straight razor?:)

From everything I'm seeing, I'm thinking Romney will win Florida, Virginia, and Colorado, but will probably lose Ohio. If he wins those 3 states but loses Ohio, will he have to win a few of the other swing states to win? I think Romney is a solid underdog in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota but I think there is a small chance he could win one of those.

I think he has a legitimate upset chance in Iowa.

Assuming Romney wins Florida, Virginia, and Colorado, which of the other states would he need to win to win the election? This question is for anyone who can answer this.

Riot 10-31-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 899517)
You've been touting this as though it was a fact for some time. It isn't true. I don't know what you have to gain by continuing to spout this

Nothing. It's just the truth. I'm quoting Nate Silver's long-term electoral college voting chart, which aggregates multiple national polls and state polls (the big guys and the little guys), which never shows Obama below 270 electoral votes.

You can see it, here: www.fivethirtyeight.com

See that top graph? Electoral college vote since June? See the black line down the middle at 270 votes? Obama always above that line, Romney always below that line.

You, on the other hand, appear to be quoting only one poll, not an aggregate of all of them.

What poll are you quoting? You didn't reference who the poll was from, or the date it was taken.

Rudeboyelvis 10-31-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 899538)
From everything I'm seeing, I'm thinking Romney will win Florida, Virginia, and Colorado, but will probably lose Ohio. If he wins those 3 states but loses Ohio, will he have to win a few of the other swing states to win? I think Romney is a solid underdog in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota but I think there is a small chance he could win one of those.

I think he has a legitimate upset chance in Iowa.

Assuming Romney wins Florida, Virginia, and Colorado, which of the other states would he need to win to win the election? This question is for anyone who can answer this.

I posted the latest Rasmussen projections a few post back in this thread. Romney could lose OH and still win, but would have to carry NV, a state which he as never statistically had a lead in, but has always been within 2-3 points of with the same % of undecideds.
OH is critical at this point in that whoever carries it, will most likely take the EC.

Rudeboyelvis 10-31-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 899543)
Nothing. It's just the truth. I'm quoting Nate Silver's long-term electoral college voting chart, which aggregates multiple national polls and state polls, which never shows Obama below 270 electoral votes.

You can see it, here: www.fivethirtyeight.com

You, on the other hand, appear to be quoting only one poll, not an aggregate of all of them.

What poll are you quoting? You didn't reference who the poll was from, or the date it was taken.

Oh I see, you post the two most left leaning polls in existence as judge others. Got it. You are screwed and you know it.

dalakhani 10-31-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 899519)
Do you know what most liberals think? I'm not making this up. I am serious. Granted I'm talking in general. It's not true for all liberals but in general liberals think that they don't need to give money to charity. They think that simply voting democrat is enough. They feel like they have done their part by voting democrat. They think that if they vote democrat that makes them a good person and no further action is necessary. It's actually kind of funny. They think that if they vote democrat and are vocal about how evil they think republicans are, this makes them a good person and no further good deeds are necessary.

I bet I could do a great job on this site of predicting which people are the least generous when it comes to donating money to charity. I'm not going to mention any names but I would say that in general, if you look at the most outspoken and angry liberals, it would be a safe bet to say that these people gave little or no money to charity.

quite scientific. And you know this how? all of your worldly travels? all of your liberal friends that make up an accurate cross section?

I know conservatives that are extremely generous and i know liberals that are extremely generous. This isn't quite as stupid as your quote about keeping a baby when you are raped by someone you know but it is still pretty dumb.

How old are you anyway?

Riot 10-31-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 899546)
Oh I see, you post the two most left leaning polls in existence as judge others. Got it. You are screwed and you know it.

:zz: Get a grip on reality. Those are not "left leaning polls", they are aggregators. They don't do polling.

Duh.

If you don't understand what "aggregator" means, you'd probably be best to stop commenting and looking silly.

By the way - who did the poll you posted, and what date was it taken? You haven't fessed up yet.

I have put my money where my mouth was, Rude. Obama wins, easily, via electoral vote. Want to bet on it, like Pants and Hooves have?

dalakhani 10-31-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 899544)
I posted the latest Rasmussen projections a few post back in this thread. Romney could lose OH and still win, but would have to carry NV, a state which he as never statistically had a lead in, but has always been within 2-3 points of with the same % of undecideds.
OH is critical at this point in that whoever carries it, will most likely take the EC.

Exactly Elvis. it really comes down to Ohio. Plain and Simple.

Rudeboyelvis 10-31-2012 06:58 PM

6 more days. Attack people you don't agree with. Classy.

Riot 10-31-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 899550)
Exactly Elvis. it really comes down to Ohio. Plain and Simple.

Actually, no - If Romney wins Ohio, he still has to virtually run the board in the eight swings to get to 270.

Riot 10-31-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 899551)
6 more days. Attack people you don't agree with. Classy.

Nobody is "attacking" anybody. Get a grip. You posted one poll. I posted the most reliable aggregator of polls in the business.

Who is your pollster, and what day was it taken? Likely voters, or registered voters? Third time I've asked you - are you simply refusing to answer?

PS - you might look at the colors on the chart you posted - see all the "tossup" states blue? That means they are going Obama. And North Carolina, long thought to go Romney, is even blue via your anonymous pollster

Have you seen the polls released today? Did you look at the 538 site? What is your comment on the aggregation of Obama as being over 270 votes since June? He's gone way up and way down, but always been over 270.

Other than your dismissal of the information as a "left leaning pollster" when the guy doesn't even do any polling.

Rudeboyelvis 10-31-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 899550)
Exactly Elvis. it really comes down to Ohio. Plain and Simple.

Not according to Queen Aggregator. Obama doesn't even need to show up ;)

Rudeboyelvis 10-31-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 899553)
Nobody is "attacking" anybody. Get a grip. You posted one poll. I posted the most reliable aggregator of polls in the business.

Who is your pollster, and what day was it taken? Likely voters, or registered voters? Third time I've asked you - are you simply refusing to answer?

Have you seen the polls released today? Did you look at the 538 site? What is your comment on the aggregation of Obama as being over 270 votes since June?

Other than "left leaning pollster" when the guy doesn't even do any polling.

Buh Bye :D


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