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v j stauffer 06-21-2012 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rare Bog (Post 870193)
This thread reminded me of this famous holiday tale from years gone by:

In the most famous version of the tale told by Ole Vic, Rosario, an undersized elf, falls in love with a vain demi-god (or is it demagouge?) Staufficus, who was the son of the blue nymph Liariope of Lesbia. The horse god Sypholis, had once encircled Liarope with the windings of his bullcrap, and thus trapping her, had seduced the nymph, who gave birth to an exceptionally beautiful boy... Staufficus.

When he had reached "his sixteenth year", (fifteen years of age, by modern reckoning) every youth and girl in the town was in love with Staufficus, but he haughtily spurned them all. He believed them not to be worthy of his love.

One day when Staufficus was out hunting stag, Rosario stealthily followed the handsome youth through the woods, longing to address him but unable to speak first. When Staufficus finally heard footsteps and shouted "And here comes Zeeeeeeeen-yata", Rosario answered "And here comes Zeeeeeeeen-yata" And so it went, with audience roars being pumped into the background until finally Rosario showed herself and rushed to embrace the lovely Staufficus. He pulled away from the undersized elf and vainly told her to leave him alone. Staufficus left Rosario heartbroken and she spent the rest of her life in the lonely glens of WinStar Farms, pining away for the love she never knew, until only her voice remained.

For this transgression against Rosario Staufficus would be punished by the muse Stewardesius.

One day, Staufficus came across a deep pool in a forest, from which he took a drink. As he did, he saw his reflection for the first time in his life and fell in love with the beautiful boy he was looking at, not realizing it was himself. Eventually, after pining away for a while, he realized that the image he saw in the pool was a reflection of himself. Realizing that he could not act upon this love, he tore at his dress and beat at his body, his life force draining out of him.


Thanks to all of you for reading.

Happy Holidays

B O G

Boy that EGG NOG sure can sneak up on ya.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-21-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 869764)
Vic Stauffer

:tro: who is solis agent..he did not last long..

helicopter11 06-21-2012 10:11 PM

Rene Douglas won a riding title at hollywood park few years back if I recall.

Coach Pants 06-22-2012 08:57 AM

Rene did win a title. He was on a roll at that time though.

It's a shame what happened. Hope he's doing o.k.

helicopter11 06-23-2012 02:37 PM



Mr. P approves of Rosario leaving.

Jackson 06-28-2012 03:49 PM

It's looking like Rafael Bejarano should be send Joel a thank you card for shifting to NY. He's already won the first two races today and he's on the favorite in the third today at BHP.

GPK 06-28-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson (Post 871908)
It's looking like Rafael Bejarano should be send Joel a thank you card for shifting to NY. He's already won the first two races today and he's on the favorite in the third today at BHP.

Wasn't Bejarano already winning at a 28 or 29 % clip BEFORE Rosario left?

Jackson 06-28-2012 04:03 PM

True, but now he's winning at 100%. it's a small sample.:)

MaTH716 06-28-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 871910)
Wasn't Bejarano already winning at a 28 or 29 % clip BEFORE Rosario left?

Gomez is his only real competitor out there when he decides to ride.
Freakin colony is abysmal.

GPK 06-28-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson (Post 871911)
True, but now he's winning at 100%. it's a small sample.:)

I laughed.

Like I mentioned in Sunday's play along thread...you have Agapito Delgadillo winning at 14%, Edwin Maldonado winning at 17%, DFlo winning at 17% (would be under 10% if he wasn't a decent turf rider), Chantal is winning at 15%.

Most overated jock colony. Ever.

GPK 06-28-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 871915)
Gomez is his only real competitor out there when he decides to ride.
Freakin colony is abysmal.

He seems to be going the Prado route, quickly. When he was at his best, Rosario and Bejerano couldn't touch him.

MaTH716 06-28-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 871916)
I laughed.

Like I mentioned in Sunday's play along thread...you have Agapito Delgadillo winning at 14%, Edwin Maldonado winning at 17%, DFlo winning at 17% (would be under 10% if he wasn't a decent turf rider), Chantal is winning at 15%.

Most overated jock colony. Ever.

Ramon Guce has a mount today. One less than Quinonez has. I just can't figure out why Quinonez can't succeed out there, he seems like a good rider.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-28-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 871917)
He seems to be going the Prado route, quickly. When he was at his best, Rosario and Bejerano couldn't touch him.

foot surgery can be a bitch..prados knees are shot..luzzi could go west and clean up..

10 pnt move up 06-28-2012 04:40 PM

no cares about riding at HP summer, if you did real well there it means you missed most of the big summer event days back east.

MaTH716 06-28-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 871922)
foot surgery can be a bitch..prados knees are shot..luzzi could go west and clean up..

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.........

pointman 06-28-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 871925)
no cares about riding at HP summer, if you did real well there it means you missed most of the big summer event days back east.

Other than Rosario going east, when has the Southern California colony been any better than what is riding at Hollywood right now in any part of the year the last couple of years?

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-28-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 871931)
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.........

:rolleyes::tro:

10 pnt move up 06-28-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 871933)
Other than Rosario going east, when has the Southern California colony been any better than what is riding at Hollywood right now in any part of the year the last couple of years?

Not sure....my point was using the standings at HP summer to judge how a rider is doing in the socal circuit is like using Aqu winter to judge who is doing well in NY. You actually only want to be there a few weekends a during the whole meet.

rpncaine 06-29-2012 11:12 AM

Looks like Nakatani is coming back to Socal. Tweet from Christina Oliveras just a few minutes ago.

10 pnt move up 06-29-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rpncaine (Post 872059)
Looks like Nakatani is coming back to Socal. Tweet from Christina Oliveras just a few minutes ago.

I have not followed him in recent years but I always like him as a rider.

GPK 06-29-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 871937)
Not sure....my point was using the standings at HP summer to judge how a rider is doing in the socal circuit is like using Aqu winter to judge who is doing well in NY. You actually only want to be there a few weekends a during the whole meet.

I thought that's what Fairplex was for?

cakes44 06-29-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 871922)
foot surgery can be a bitch..prados knees are shot..luzzi could go west and clean up..

Things were going good there until you brought up luzzi.

I'd seriously take CC Lopez over him every day of the week.

cakes44 06-29-2012 03:25 PM

Not sure of Rosario's early record in NY, but I know I won't overlook him on anything on the turf or from well off the pace. Maybe the best finisher in the game IMO.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-29-2012 03:47 PM

i think hes average at best.

alysheba4 06-29-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 871922)
foot surgery can be a bitch..prados knees are shot..luzzi could go west and clean up..

:rolleyes:

pba1817 06-30-2012 05:34 AM

At Belmont, Rosario is 2 for his first 7 with 2 places.

He will be a value play for only a short time. Until the east coast bias wears itself off.. He is 500x a better rider than the french statue everyone likes to bet.

If he chooses to stay in NY, I predict you guys here will be singing his praises by the end of Saratoga.

Alabama Stakes 06-30-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 872143)
i think hes average at best.


you are way off. i watched him in the 8th at bel. he had a ton of hoss and was so patient, i thought he was holding him. he just confidently reeled him in and rolled around the field easily. Anything he rides must be included.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-30-2012 09:10 AM

hes had a few caddys so far..

pointman 06-30-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 872325)
At Belmont, Rosario is 2 for his first 7 with 2 places.

He will be a value play for only a short time. Until the east coast bias wears itself off.. He is 500x a better rider than the french statue everyone likes to bet.

If he chooses to stay in NY, I predict you guys here will be singing his praises by the end of Saratoga.

Leparoux is far from a top rider on the east coast.

pba1817 06-30-2012 04:17 PM

I didn't say he was..

Alabama Stakes 04-26-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 869841)
Rosario will be the leading rider at Saratoga. Y'all forget about the most important thing....hosses run for him. He's damn good.

maybe this year


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