And did you have to support a family of 4 and a 4K mortgage while doing this work?

If your chosen profession is no longer available you adapt. I am not saying that everyone should or can work in construction or a field. I am saying that people need to get off their high horses about the job that is good enough for them and suck it up. I can guarantee if I needed the work and were willing to sacrifice enough to work at McDonald's, I am coming away with that job and I am going to impress and show up and collect my pay after working hard for the week. It comes down to motivation and a willingness to do something "beneath" you in order to survive. Not waiting around for someone else to take care of you. More people needed to grow up poor, this way they would be better equipped to handle it when it happened to them.

No on the family, yes on the mortgage, though I knew better than to tie myself to a mortgage of 4K (it was 2700 though I lived in NJ so my 7K a year in property taxes made up most of the difference). 5 days a week of labor and 4 nights a week in kitchens actually pays pretty well believe it or not. Got to come home to my degrees every night too.

Yeah the stiff upper lip nonsense that was passed on to some of us. Accept globalism and work harder for less and in the perfect Utopia you'll move up and be successful.

Too bad they raised the takeout 60%.

Alternative?

You live in a dream world of ignorance as to what real people are going through out there. When there are 1000 people showing up at the local McDonalds for 3 jobs, there's a jobs problem. Not a 'lazy American who won't adapt" problem.

Open your local newspaper - where are the literally thousands of jobs available, just sitting there begging to be filled, by the millions of currently unemployed workers who won't "adapt"? They don't exist.

This is real easy: count the current jobs available in the country - for anything. Count the current number of unemployed. Which is five times bigger?

Join the military or uhhhh thug life.

Me? I'm diversified and somewhat prepared. Working on cardio and strength because I'm going to need it once the s.hit hits the fan and the unprepared go primal.

Lower the taxes on the Rich and Corps because they are the "Job Creators":rolleyes:

As the quote goes, "I've never gotten a job from a poor person."

The newspaper? You are in a dream world where the government creates jobs for people, see how that works out.
I am going to quit this discourse too. As I am ill equipped to imagine being something I am not I cannot really debate this argument as I could not the last one. I have work for anyone willing to try something new, work your ass off, travel A LOT and create for yourself. PM me. Though it is likely if you fit that mold, someone already has you.

Corps do not PAY taxes, they collect them. Come on.

Exactly.

Real wages have stagnated for 40 years. The income gap has widened. There is no growing, consumer-driven middle class any more (what kept this country afloat). The game has changed. Permanently.

Sounds like prep for the zombies to me, good on you.

Lock and load!

Are you waiting for the Bumbling Bernanke Bonanza? Here come the pain.

That guy is a joke too.

Yeah Joey.. I'm sure you have the balls to pull the trigger when push comes to shove and the money to defend yourself in court if the MAN decides you used too much force.

No, I'll just sit there and let them kill me. :rolleyes:

Fed sues Goldman Sachs over sale of Mortgage Bonds to Credit Unions

Good luck with that because the world which you want (no Welfare, self directed SS) you may get plenty of chances to pull the trigger as those ill prepared as Coach would say "Go Primal".

Now who is going to pay for the increased Police presence and jails in your Utopia?

So at least you admit that it's blood money paid to a collection of thugs.

I'm so glad FDR and Lyndon Johnson built this monstrosity.

Judge an entire group based upon the actions of a vast minority there Joey... I get the picture now, loud and clear.

Guess what? The rich have taken them overseas. So you won't get one from a rich person, either.

:tro:

Why? Any idea why the jobs have left? There must be a reason.

Couldn't possibly be Unmitigated Greed?

If what you allude to is correct, and "going primal" happens - which suggests violence - that is thuggery is it not? And unless we keep paying it happens - that is blood money. I was using your precedent as a basis.

Does anyone else in this discussion employ people?

At least they didn't say they were going to print more $.....

Just make sure you have a current passport. You might want to leave for a few years.

So they ALL, uniformly, showed "Unmitigated Greed"?

Or is it more likely, due to the uniformity of their action, that the conditions for making profit here in the United States was comprimised by unions and high labor rates, high taxes, excessive regulation, and the like?

Greed would be the pursuit of excessive profit, right? But stable and substantial profits at some level must be made if a company is to stay in business.

They moved the work to where it is profitable. It was that or go out of business.

You mean "Quantitative Easing" ?

No. I'm in the real world, asking you where are all these jobs you say exist. All these thousands and thousands of jobs the private job creators have, just sitting empty and unfilled, because the record number of unemployed "won't adapt".

You say they are there - where are they? I'm sure the hundreds of unemployed at the local office would welcome your direction to them.

And BTW, the "government creating jobs" worked okay for FDR, didn't it? You know, that "Great Depression" that made our parents so tough and instilled all that work ethic into us?

Very Nice back peddal Joey.. Verbal Judo.. Your point VERY CLEAR to anyone with half a brain (Nascar need not apply).

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 798659) So at least you admit that it's blood money paid to a collection of thugs.I'm so glad FDR and Lyndon Johnson built this monstrosity.

I kind of thought that.

If you're reading anything into it aside from what was typed, I suggest you delve into your own dark thoughts. It's not a Rorschach test.

Yes so far no talk of QEIII, thank god

Grandparents for me actually. FDR was dealing with a completely different economic scenario and breed of American than we have today. The sense of entitlement that has imprinted itself on the psyche of the modern resident of this country is absolutely embarrassing.

Clueless.... How is that strategy of "Moving Work where it is profitable" working out for the economy now Joey? How is it working out for the housing recovery Joey? High Taxes Joey? Most pay NONE... Corporations have a duty to employ citizens of the country in which they operate.

The difference is they knew when the economy turned around the jobs would come back... We don't have that today.. Too many people for far too few jobs. London is our future and it will happen sooner rather than later.