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Like I said, everyone is entittled to their opinions, buy why are you singling him out?

I think it means very little. That's my opinion and Matt Cassel has had a nice year. But his team is terribly overrated, has the advantage of playing in arguably the worst division in the AFC and has had the advantage of playing the teams from the NFC West this season, who is without a doubt the worst divsion in the NFL. Take away the 3 wins against the NFC West (a division where the first place team is currently 6-7) and they are 5-5 with blowout losses to two division rivals.

Matt Cassel is squarely not the 5th best Quarterback in the NFL overall or even this year for that matter. Hell, I wouldn't even rate him in the top 15 in all honesty. Pretty much anyone of the Quarterbacks who I would rate in the Top 15 can do what Cassel did this year. This is how I would rate your Starters/QB groups from 1-32 based on some of this year as well as where the QBs are with regards to their careers, aka Carson Palmer is done, etc.

1. Brady, NE
2. Vick, PHI
3. Rivers, SD
4. Rodgers, GB
5. Brees, NO
6. Roethlisberger, PIT
7. Ryan, ATL
8. P. Manning, IND
9. Romo, DAL
10. Schaub, HOU
11. Flacco, BAL
12. E. Manning, NYG
13. Bradford, STL
14. Freeman, TB
15. Fitzpatrick, BUF
16. Cassel, KC
17. Cutler, CHI
18. Garrard, JAC
19. Orton, DEN
20. Stafford, DET
21. Sanchez, NYJ
22. McNabb, WAS
23. Hasselbeck, SEA
24. Campbell, OAK
25. Palmer, CIN
26. MIN QBs/Favre/Jackson
27. TEN QBs/Collins/Young
28. Henne, MIA
29. CLE QBs/McCoy/Delhomme
30. SF QBs/T. Smith/A. Smith
31. ARI QBs/Anderson/Skelton
32. CAR QBs/Clausen/Moore

He is gonna have to roll his ***** on the field these next three weeks with this Aaron Rodgers fiasco crap, speaking in terms of fantasy.

I am like the Sinister Minister of Fantasy, I dominate for like 8 weeks (8 furlongs) and then **** the bed

Me too... I make the playoffs and Kyle Orton thows up a -4 and Raiders D
a -1

We don't have playoffs, all 17 weeks. I'm in first in both leagues with 3 to go, but after tonight unless Boldin has a ridiculous game (and Rice brothers and Giants D suck) I am in a three way tie with only the tiebreaker in my favor. I do although play the three worst teams the next three weeks, but in the last week weeks that is probably a bad thing considering all the bad players will be getting 'theirs' since their season is over. argh

I don't think QB rating is meaningless in the same way that AVG is for baseball players. Obviously, it can be a useful metric in the long run, but it's just as obvious that it's not THE only stat that matters for a QB.

Interesting that RHT's top five QB's this year are also 1-5 (or close to it) in QB rating as of today.

RE: Eli - come on, the guy throws more wobblers than your average high school quarterback. He was huge in 2008, but that doesn't mean he's 1/10th the player his brother is. I'm not a buyer.

Ok so he's not near one of the top QB's ever to play the game. I disagree about the wobblers, I think he throws a good ball. Sometimes his decision making is a bit questionable, but his game management skills which was an issue has gotten progressively better. He is a solid and durable NFL QB that continues to get better. (I know, I am obviously biased)

:tro:

The issue is that Sanchez had a lousy rookie year and knee-jerkers like Tubby Guidohair jumped to the conclusion that he sucks, ignoring factors like age and lack of experience. In the early part of the year, his play made these people reconsider their ironclad opinions, which they don't like doing. Now that he's had a couple of shitty games, they can safely go back to the premature writing him off mode.

The bottom line is he sure as hell has improved from last year to this year but he still has a lot more improving to do, namely in inclement weather games. I don't care what you think of his play thus far, but if you're closing the book on him less than two seasons into his career when he only had 16 college starts, I humbly suggest that you're a moron who doesn't understand the position.

Totally off topic, but the sight of the Vikings logo being painted in the middle of Ford Field kind of makes me want to vomit in my mouth. Maybe this means the NFL will think Detroit not sucking isn't such a bad thing after all? </conspiracy theory>

Here's a tough one. Sanchez or Bradford?


I'd side with Bradford to build a franchise around, but I'm curious to see what others views are on this one. I like both of them as they move forward, but Bradford seems to have the edge imo.

Next year will be the year you will know about Bradford. He has been impressive with limited talent

I think the obvious thing that people are missing in regards to Sanchez is that the Jets offensive line has played poorly of late which certainly plays a big factor in how he plays. In the 4th quarter of the last game Miami was blitzing and creating pressure on almost every play.

They had some individual breakdowns, especially Hunter against Wake, but there were many situations where, and the Dolphin players saw this, he had happy feet, and stepped up into trouble when he should have stayed put. Also, and he admitted this, he wasn't holding onto the ball with both hands in the pocket, which led to a couple of fumbles. The poor footwork had much to do with his game-long inaccuracy.

i'm very impressed with bradford, i think he has a bright future ahead of him.

Based on a very, very limited sample size, Bradford by a mile.

Its more like 3 miles.
I would even take Colt Mccoy. He has no weapons at all and has shown talent.

These California QB's are such a risk in the NFL. I'm suprised there is not a lot of talk about it. They play their entire college career and for some high school in picture perfect weather. Come November on the east coast they are unable to handle the elements.

This is the most pathetic list/thing I have ever witnessed. I was talking this year, and you go and put Tony Romo in your top 10? WTF?

How about your boy Matt Ice last night?
Schaub... The peoples QB.

I really think that this has something to do with Sanchez's struggles. He looked very uncomfortable and cold in New England and the wind was blowing like crazy on Sunday.

I was at the Texans-Ravens game last night. Baltimore was extremely lucky to get out of there with a win and they have a lot of to do offensively if they're going to make any noise in the first round.

The Texans found yet another way to lose, they deserve points for creativity. Hopefully their next coach will help them develop a killer instinct.

Dude, Is Baltimore not allowed to have a bad game? They played NE better then any of the other "good teams"
They split with Pitt and should have swept. They DOMINATED TEXANS FOR 2 QUARTERS, then kinda fell to sleep. They beat the Jets in NY. I think last night wakes the defense up.
They are the only team other then NE that can win the AFC.

They didn't play well against Pittsburgh either. They were also more dominated in the 2nd half than they were dominant in the first half. If not for that kickoff return or the Texans' inability to convert on 3rd down in Baltimore territory early in the 2nd half the game would have been very different. The Ravens defense was woeful from the 2:00 warning of the first half to the end of regulation.

The Patriots team that Baltimore played close is just nothing like the current Pats team. I'm not a Pats fan but realistically, they'll tear any other team in the AFC to shreds if they continue to play like this.

How Flacco continues to put up such anemic passing numbers with Boldin, Houshmandzadeh and Mason is just beyond me. Mason dropped a couple of important balls early last night but made a nice catch in the back of the end zone for the first touchdown. I just don't see Baltimore being a contender in the AFC at all.

The Ravens gave up back to back drives of 95 and 99 yards in the 4th quarter last night. They are a talented team and one of the contenders in the AFC. But, that should be a concern to anyone thinking they don't have major holes, just like everyone else.

Baltimore's had a few stinkers. Buffalo comes to mind, and they did lose to Cincinnati. They're better than most, but still not great.

Yeah the California perfect weather theory is solid.

But could it be because Sanchez is part-Mexican? You know...since Mexicans live in a climate similar to California...I mean the ones that aren't already living there.

GTFO.

Maybe it has nothing to do with the weather. Maybe quarterbacks with black hair aren't equal to blonde quarterbacks.

Look at some of the great quarterbacks...

Dan Marino - Brown hair
Tom Brady - Blonde
Joe Montana - ginger blonde

SEE?

Sanchez needs to dye his hair!

Problem solved. Bring whore give head now.

Dude.. Why do you always jump straight to the absurd? I stand by my point. Recent East Coast failures off the top of my head without even thinking about it Rob Johnson, Trent Edwards, Carson Palmer. Brady while born in Cali schooled in Michigan. Give me a Cal Bred and schooled that has been successful on the east coast?

Aaron Rodgers seems to do pretty well. Not on the east coast but Green Bay is a cooler climate area.

I personally dont think the weather has to do with it. The fact that Southern Cal gets the nations top recruits (until recently) is probably the main reason. They always have a killer O-line, making the job easier. Almost always have a RB that will play pro, along with some WR's. Those things might make a qb look better than he really is.

I always liked Sanchez.. which is saying a lot because USC is at the Cowboys level of hatred for me. I wish Carson Palmer had never hurt his knee, his career looked so promising until then. Leinert is just a :zz: He may have been a product of my first paragraph. When you have to stop Reggie Bush and Lendale White, Leinert's job is much easier.

Yes he certainly would be an exception.

Stand by it all you want. It's a ridiculous point.

Brady practiced indoors at Michigan. I find it hard to believe that 4 years in Michigan transformed him into a stellar cold weather quarterback.

You have the worst opinion here and it's apparently the worst reading comprehension as well. I rated how I view the starting quarterbacks/quarterback groups without proven starters AT THIS POINT IN THEIR CAREERS...not based off this year. But if you can read you might have noticed that Rocktard...Keep believing that Matt Cassel is the 4th best QB in football this year...Ryan Fitzpatrick could do what Cassel is doing this year. Fitzpatrick actually has only 2 less TD passes playing in less games and on a 3-10 team. Keep dreaming.

Your clearly a homer and cant be reasonable.

Oh the ironing.

The Ravens are nothing special and neither is Flacco, accept it.

I'm a Patriot fan. Have been since my trips to Foxboro as a young lad.

What?

Interesting theory.

Buffalo has been 0-3 with California dudes at QB so far. (R. Johnson, Losman, Edwards)

I guess that means I should revise my love affair with Luck.

Wouldn't Favre be an exception as well? He grew up in Gulfport which doesnt get very cold in the winter and he did pretty well in the cold weather.

How about Elway? He played his career in denver and he was a cali boy.

Isn't Terry Bradshaw from louisiana and didnt he play in pittsburgh?

Matt Cassel is from USC and is having a pretty nice season in KC.

Carson Palmer went to USC. Now I realize he is a shell of what he was but look at what he did from 2003-2006 in Cincy which I wouldn't confuse for Nassau.

I am with Coach. It is very clear the problems Sanchez is having is due to being Mexican.

Your opinion is quite accurate. As his young receivers continue to improve as will Eli's stats. Nicks is a player.

Eli has his issues but he certainly is in the top half of the qbs in the league at this point.