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Scav 10-25-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 710813)
She is a very likely winner.

No she isn't....

IMO she is a play against, I think she ran her race last time.

Awesome Feather is the longshot that interest me the most in that race.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 710816)
No she isn't....

IMO she is a play against, I think she ran her race last time.

Awesome Feather is the longshot that interest me the most in that race.


I think her last was so easy. She just rolled home. Garcia hardly asked her, and Baffert will have her ready.

Coach Pants 10-25-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 710818)
I think her last was so easy. She just rolled home. Garcia hardly asked her, and Baffert will have her ready.

Well Garcia is shy. Plus she's known to get sassy when being told what to do.

gtfo

hockey2315 10-25-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 710818)
I think her last was so easy. She just rolled home. Garcia hardly asked her, and Baffert will have her ready.

Really?!

She can win, but she didn't really do it easy. She just built up a big lead and held on.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710824)
Really?!

She can win, but she didn't really do it easy. She just built up a big lead and held on.

I disagree, but OK.

Cannon Shell 10-25-2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 709691)
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/art...s-richest-race


Paddy O to the Classic They turned down 10 million for him

So the Turf lost Fame and Glory,Paddy and Cape Blanco all in 1 day

I don't believe they turned down 10 million for him. I know that he wont be worth 15 million with a 3rd place finish and there is zero chance he will be worth 30 million if he wins.

Cannon Shell 10-25-2010 12:30 PM

What exactly was the reason that we have a BC marathon? This race is a joke.

alysheba4 10-25-2010 01:00 PM

agree.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 710840)
What exactly was the reason that we have a BC marathon? This race is a joke.

Yup. Agree.

10 pnt move up 10-25-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 710840)
What exactly was the reason that we have a BC marathon? This race is a joke.

Its obvious they just need a race designated as BC Race so when they sell the packages for 2 days worth of racing they have the product.

Its silly and stupid, they had the perfect format with 7 races and like racing always does F'd it all up.

hockey2315 10-25-2010 01:24 PM

I like all the other additions (why would you not want more betting opportunities?), but this race is pretty laughable - especially on the dirt. It'll be interesting to see how the Euros run on dirt. . . I'm guessing they won't run well for the most part.

Cannon Shell 10-25-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710872)
I like all the other additions (why would you not want more betting opportunities?), but this race is pretty laughable - especially on the dirt. It'll be interesting to see how the Euros run on dirt. . . I'm guessing they won't run well for the most part.

It is a race in a non-existent division. They would be better off wth a filly turf sprint if they want to have C level BC races.

hockey2315 10-25-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 710877)
It is a race in a non-existent division. They would be better off wth a filly turf sprint if they want to have C level BC races.

I agree with you that it's a joke. Obviously it's meant to appeal to the Euros, as they have a "stayer" division over there. . . the fact that it's not on turf is possibly the biggest joke of all.

Cannon Shell 10-25-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710879)
I agree with you that it's a joke. Obviously it's meant to appeal to the Euros, as they have a "stayer" division over there. . . the fact that it's not on turf is possibly the biggest joke of all.

On turf it would just be a bad race. On dirt it is a complete waste of time.

Cannon Shell 10-25-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 710882)
On turf it would just be a bad race. On dirt it is a complete waste of time.

Riot may say that peer-reviewed scientific study would show that there are less injuries in 1 3/4 dirt races than any other races in the US.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 710884)
Riot may say that peer-reviewed scientific study would show that there are less injuries in 1 3/4 dirt races than any other races in the US.

Did you just respond to yourself?

Cannon Shell 10-25-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 710885)
Did you just respond to yourself?

What are you doing to yourself?

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 710889)
What are you doing to yourself?

Right now, handicapping and watching Iron Man 2.

Cannon Shell 10-25-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 710890)
Right now, handicapping and watching Iron Man 2.

:)

10 pnt move up 10-25-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710872)
I like all the other additions (why would you not want more betting opportunities?), but this race is pretty laughable - especially on the dirt. It'll be interesting to see how the Euros run on dirt. . . I'm guessing they won't run well for the most part.

I dont see how the other races have made the BC better, it was much more interesting when the euro horses entered both the filly and colt juveniles....when mile horses with speed tried to stretch it to 10F.

The turf sprint is even a novelty IMO, is there even a grade 1 turf sprint, or how many are grade 2 during the year. Again was better to have them try it in the dirt, would we have ever had a Sheik Albadou if there was a grass sprint?

hockey2315 10-25-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 710954)
I dont see how the other races have made the BC better, it was much more interesting when the euro horses entered both the filly and colt juveniles....when mile horses with speed tried to stretch it to 10F.

The turf sprint is even a novelty IMO, is there even a grade 1 turf sprint, or how many are grade 2 during the year. Again was better to have them try it in the dirt, would we have ever had a Sheik Albadou if there was a grass sprint?

You must not bet. . .

The GI Nearctic was run at Woodbine last weekend.

Travis Stone 10-25-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 710954)
The turf sprint is even a novelty IMO, is there even a grade 1 turf sprint, or how many are grade 2 during the year. Again was better to have them try it in the dirt, would we have ever had a Sheik Albadou if there was a grass sprint?

Turf Sprints to me are a catch all for horses incapable of running in other distances/surfaces. Open the gates, run like hell and hope you can keep it going to the end. 5 furlongs bursts are easier than sustaining your speed going longer.... even over 6f's.

10 pnt move up 10-25-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710955)
You must not bet. . .

Thats a great comeback.......so the justification for it being the highest level of the sport is if its a great betting race.

They should make all stake races at Hoosier Park grade 1's and every race run at HP a listed stake if that was the case.

hockey2315 10-25-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 710958)
Thats a great comeback.......so the justification for it being the highest level of the sport is if its a great betting race.

They should make all stake races at Hoosier Park grade 1's and every race run at HP a listed stake if that was the case.

Gone are the days where racing will draw because of the quality of the horses. . . The old people and purists need to get over it.

My knowledge doesn't go far enough back to confirm this, but all anyone ever says is how much the horses of today suck compared to the horses from past generations. . . so who cares about the "highest level of the sport"?

The only way racing has any chance of surviving is if it is presented as an attractive betting product and alternative to the less intellectually driven forms of gambling that dominate the market.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 05:12 PM

Does anyone think Morning Line can make an impact in the Classic?

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 06:03 PM

Is Allure d’Amour running in the Juvy Filly Turf race?

NTamm1215 10-25-2010 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 711018)
Does anyone think Morning Line can make an impact in the Classic?

For five furlongs or so.

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 711041)
Is Allure d’Amour running in the Juvy Filly Turf race?

Yes, she's Pletcher's 2nd best horse in the race.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 711042)
For five furlongs or so.



Yes, she's Pletcher's 2nd best horse in the race.

I think she will prove to be better then More Then Real.

the_fat_man 10-25-2010 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 710956)
Turf Sprints to me are a catch all for horses incapable of running in other distances/surfaces. Open the gates, run like hell and hope you can keep it going to the end. 5 furlongs bursts are easier than sustaining your speed going longer.... even over 6f's.

These PLUGS are so woeful that it's a wonder they're able to win any of those turf sprints. What with all those dirt sprinters and dirt/turf routers running in those easy pickings races. Oh wait, that doesn't really happen does it?:rolleyes: These PLUGS regularly kick the s h i t out of dirt sprinters and dirt/turf cutbacks, when turf sprinting.

And, I play these races @ CRC, TAM, GP, FG, MTH, KEE, CD, SAR, etc., and with the exception of, arguably, the strongest turf bias I've witnessed in over 30 years of playing the races, @ SAR, it doesn't really seem to work out as much as one would think for the speed.

Which probably means these horses have a 'special' ability. Clearly, they have the best 'footwork' in the game.:rolleyes:

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 711060)
These PLUGS are so woeful that it's a wonder they're able to win any of those turf sprints. What with all those dirt sprinters and dirt/turf routers running in those easy pickings races. Oh wait, that doesn't really happen does it? These PLUGS regularly kick the s h i t out of dirt sprinters and dirt/turf cutbacks, when turf sprinting.

And, I play these races @ CRC, TAM, GP, FG, MTH, SAR, etc., and with the exception of, arguably, the strongest turf bias I've witnessed in over 30 years of playing the races, @ SAR, it doesn't really seem to work out as much as one would think for the speed.

Which probably means these horses have a 'special' ability. Clearly, they have the best 'footwork' in the game.


Since you play so many of these races, do you have any opinion on the BC Turf Sprint?

the_fat_man 10-25-2010 06:46 PM

Haven't followed the game since the last week @ SAR. Significantly behind in terms of data. Doubtful I catch up by BC day. No opinion, sorry.

JerseyJ 10-25-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 711062)
Since you play so many of these races, do you have any opinion on the BC Turf Sprint?

I love how TFM considers these horses plugs strictly because they specialize in something...most horses do specialize in one thing because that's what their trainers become good at. I don't mind turf sprints, I will play them. I think they are fun races and outstanding races to cap and bet because often times it's chaos at the finish and trips play the biggest part in them. And really I thought Saratoga's course didn't play so biased towards the turf sprints, it was the routes where horses went right to the front and strictly wired field. The 500 thousand dollar question here is though, even though he may play so many of them, is the opinion of an 0 for 66er at one point really the best place to look?

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 711067)
Haven't followed the game since the last week @ SAR. Significantly behind in terms of data. Doubtful I catch up by BC day. No opinion, sorry.

Did something happen? Are you in good health?
If you need someone to talk to Joey is here.

hockey2315 10-25-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ (Post 711068)
I love how TFM considers these horses plugs strictly because they specialize in something...most horses do specialize in one thing because that's what their trainers become good at. I don't mind turf sprints, I will play them.

The 500 thousand dollar question here is though, even though he may play so many of them, is the opinion of an 0 for 66er really the best place to look?

He was being sarcastic.

NTamm1215 10-25-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 711044)
I think she will prove to be better then More Then Real.

That doesn't have anything to do with her sire, right?

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 711079)
That doesn't have anything to do with her sire, right?


Im actually not aware of who her sire is? I know she ran well first out, and her maiden win WAS EASY. With that name is she an M D'Oro?

NTamm1215 10-25-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 711086)
Im actually not aware of who her sire is? I know she ran well first out, and her maiden win WAS EASY. With that name is she an M D'Oro?

Nice try.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 711091)
Nice try.

Elaborate?

hockey2315 10-25-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 711092)
Elaborate?

There is no way that you're incapable of looking up the sire of a horse.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 711096)
There is no way that you're incapable of looking up the sire of a horse.

I got it now.


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