Offensively, who's teams have been consistently worse in the post? LaRussa won a ring (a few years ago) with crap. He's better. Lasorda won a ring in '88 with one REAL good starting pitcher, Gibby, and a rare Scioscia man up. While he was a rather mediocre strategic manager, his teams twice man'd up in the post. Didn't he go to the big show 4 times, and win 2? Wasn't supposed to win either of them. I just think Bobby was a short-term weak motivational individual. Obviously, he was better at that over 162 games.

Part of their job is motivational leader. That was not the man's strong point.

Sadly, I think he actually settled in the last time we faced him. Dodgers don't count though. We are so poorly run that it won't surprise me if we get him.

I wasn't aware that players needed extra motivation in the playoffs.

Braves do. He's right. They lay regular as coke whores.

Im sure LEE is better right now.

In the playoffs maybe. Overall, Halladay's easily better.

Sure, but what really matters?

LOL..Mitre...

Didn't matter, Lee could have pitched for 60 innings tonight and the Yanks weren't going to score a run.

Cruz is 30 ? How the f was this guy not good at 18-27? That's weird.

Everything. There's a reason nobody thinks Andy Pettitte is better than C.C. Sabathia.

Lee is terrific for sure. Halladay's no hitter in the playoffs gives him 5 or 6 more games to see if he's as good as Lee in the playoffs.

Halladays last outing wasnt bad, not spectacular, but it should have been a 7 inning 2 run performance, cause Ibanez NEEDs to make that catch in the outfield to end the inning instead of having 2 runs score.

I'll still take a Halladay - Oswalt - Hamels trio over a Lee-Hamels rotation any day of the week.

Would be absolutely hilarious if it's TX and Philly and CL stuffs them twice … and TX takes the series.

Could you just see the look on bonehead Amaro's face if that scenario plays out … LOL



That said, lookin' forward to watching my man Hollywood later on today…

Amaro is faaaaaaaar from a bonehead.

Everything Amaro has done so far has been right, except for the prospects he got back for Lee. Should have got better baseball players for Cliff Lee.

And there would be nothing hilarious about Cliff Lee shutting the Phillies down twice. But first we need to get through the Giants. I dont care what happens with TX & NY... though I always enjoy seeing the Yankees lose.

Sometimes you should just stick to Zenyatta, Booth.. its hard to find faults in a team that is playing in their third straight NLCS.

Postseason Cliff Lee 7-0 1.10 ERA....Whoa.

Best clutch pitcher in the business

Still stunning to think about the way Amaro treated him during the off-season

If that scenario above ever came true, it would be some seriously sweet poetic justice for CL

Of course, Antichrist32 would still think that Amaro was a genius…

Rangers vs. Giants World Series will result in a 1 year personal moratorium on threads started about Islam, Turks, or the Dodgers.

Go Bankees!!

How did Amaro treat him in the offseason? He got Halladay which was his goal. Did he talk poorly about Lee's family or something? I don't remember reading that. Unless he did that, I don't think he was treated poorly. Halladay is a better pitcher than Lee. Period. Lee is on a different plane in postseason granted and his first 8 postseason starts are perhaps the best ever. A team in 3 straight NLCS series' along with one world championship so far is a phenomenal job. It's simply a case of the Giants top 3 of Lincecum, Cain and Sanchez is very close and can match up with Halladay, Oswalt and Hamels. It's a great series.

All reports are that Lee will play in siberia if they give him the most money after this year. If there was no possible way for them to sign him after this year which I'm guessing is likely, they chose Halladay and tried to get something in return for Lee. I have no problem with anything they did, and they added Oswalt for the playoffs. The postseason can be a crap shoot and they may not get there, but they are in a great spot right now without Lee. They made their decisions and it's worked out fine regardless of if they beat the Giants or not.

Philadelphia absolutely screwed up the Lee deal. They got less for him than AZ got for Edwin Jackson. Seattle got way better prospects for Lee despite having no leverage. If they keep Lee and let him sign somewhere else they get number 1 draft picks in return. If they trade him for players that will help them this year, maybe they wouldn't have had to slog through Kyle Kendrick and most of the bullpen. The fact that Halladay signed a far below market value deal and what they had to give oswalt makes the 9 million it would have cost them look like peanuts.

They took one of the most valuable assets in baseball, a playoff tested ace, and turned him into basically nothing.

What is overall? Halladay's best isnt better than Lee's. He has had a better career but the last three years they are pretty even.



http://www.yankeeist.com/2010/10/how...ition-and.html

How the hell did they miss that foul call that badly on Berkman's AB?

Hey there are only 6 of them!

I don't pay attention to the minor leagues too much and don't really know what the prospects they got for Lee have done. I was appalled this time last year at what the Indians got for Lee, but a year later the trade is looking a bit better. Isn't it too early to completely judge what the Phils got for Lee?

Did you see the Loser Douche in the front row giving Cruz **** after the homerun? He needs a solid beatdown, what a ****.

I liked the guy that pushed Cruz's glove down when he jumped up to make the catch. How is that at least not reviewed? I'm not saying it should have been overturned, but you have to at least review it.

No it isn't.
Phillip Aumonte was kicked back to high A after going 1-6 with a 7.43 era in AA. He was slightly less bad in single A going 2-5 with a 4.48 era.

JC Ramirez went 3-4 with a 5.45 era in double A. He also just had hip surgery.

Tyson Gilles missed most of the season with hamstring injuries but did manage to hit .238. He also was arrested on felony cocaine possesion.

Think there are any diamonds in that rough?

The problem was that no one else thought these guys were stud prospects before the trade. Cliff Lee should net you a 5 star or upper level 4 star prospect. In football terms a first or second round pick. They got 5th rounders with issues.

I dont think they can review fan interference can they?

I don't know. They should be able to.

I guess those names had been posted in a thread here before and I forgot. Oh well, mybe the bionic hip will help Ramirez.

I think there are some underlying issues with Cliff Lee none of us know about. Victor Martinez was one of the most liked and respected Indians ever, and Cliff Lee hated his guts. It reached the point where Lee would not even pitch to him. Martinez never caught him his last year and a half there before the trade. although not as bad as the Phils, I don't think the Indians got for him nearly what they should have either and the Phils had no hesitation getting rid of him after what he did for them gettign the guys you mentioned. It doesn't make much sense.

Member when Lee was having hat horrific year ..he hit an Hispanic player in the head in one game...and Martinez was furious over the fact Lee showed no concern...I think they had to be sep arated.....pretty sure Lee also spent 2 years in the Louisiana can...this sound right?

Bengie says "One for the fat people..... Fat can still bat."

Lincecum vs. Lee in Game 1 on October 27 in Arlington?

He was ugly as sin to boot.

Side note--If Chuckles runs out Blanton tomorrow with this team's present hitting woes, I'd be feeling really really good with a SF/TEX World Series prop bet ticket in my hand.

Reverse mush?!?

LOL, Elvis seems like he's going for the Bobo-the-Clown look.

That suckers not healthy, he's HEALTHY....if you know what I'm sayin. I like how they were backtracking some big shots of his in the past, and in the next live shot he parks it.

I think you are referring to Derrick Todd Lee, not Cliff...and I think he might be in for longer than a couple of years?????

Gopher, my very good friend......this last post is for you.



kiss-kiss,hug-hug..Dahling

If that were to be the case and god I hope the Orange and Black keep it up it would be Game 1 on October 27th at AT&T Park. Or wherever...Game 1 will either be at Citizens Bank or AT&T by virtue of the All-Star result and it's about time the Senior circuit got one.