Kibbles n Bits just signed Vick to a multi-year endorsement deal.






























LOL I'm just kidding, dawg.

Douglass---16-36-1
Vick--39-28-1 (postseason 2-2)

I think they're both ridiculous. But Vick is farther ahead of Douglass than he is behind Young.

He's not a mobile QB. He is a running QB who is an inaccurate passer, there is a big difference.

Just comparing their qb to running ratios.


Douglass' Bears teams were awful.

No especially with a guy like Vick. Vick was making the bandits miss. He was getting hit by the collapsing pressure. But you knew that.

Regardless, either way, despite the protection issues he played superbly.

Lol

a "zero blitz" is when you throw your safeties in and go all in at the qb. Antitrust is saying that Detroit was indeed blitzing. It doesn't seem like you picked up on that. Reid was also commenting on it after the game.

We clearly define "blitz" in so far as applies to NFL terms complete differently. In my world, "blitz" means the defending team is bringing linebackers/safeties/cornerbacks in on the rush in an attempt to outnumber the offensive team's blockers and stop a running back or quarterback behind the line of scrimmage or force the quarterback to make an inaccurate throw. If that is the standard definition of "blitz" in football parlance, then the Lions did very little of that last Sunday. Period. End of story. The Lions statistically were one of the three or four least likely to blitz teams in the entire NFL last season, and last I checked, they still employ the same defensive coordinator.

LOL

Maybe you should explain to Andy Reid what a "blitz" is in NFL parlance. I don't know about last season, but he seems to think that Detroit was "blitzing" as well.

http://eaglesmix.com/2010/09/reid-ha...k-and-win.html

From his news conference which was quoted in article:

On the pass protection being a physical or mental issue:

“They came out and obviously they blitzed. There were a few times they went zero blitz and there were more than you could pick up there. Mike did a good job of getting the ball out of there. Other times we had some breakdowns. I think it is a matter of guys playing and getting the reps. I think that is very important right now. Every game helps you become a better offensive line and by guys playing together.”

What does that prove? Every NFL team has blitz packages and invariably uses them during the game. The Lions do so a lot less often than other teams, and that was the case last Sunday.

:rolleyes:

I guess maybe you need to explain to everyone else that Detroit wasn't blitzing much on Sunday.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news...-the-line.html

Last week the Lions frequently sent men blitzing up the middle, which often flushed Vick out of the pocket. But he still found a way to be very productive. Credit not only his legs but his arm. Back in his Atlanta days, Vick would immediately take off downfield if he felt pressure. These days, under Reid and Mornhinweg, he looks to pass first, run later.

Another Andy Reid Quote:

“It was important. I think they have a very good defensive front. They can rush the passer well. You have to mix that in well and have some balance to keep them off balance since they were blitzing a lot. You saw us pop a couple. We hit them on those zero blitzes and after that there is nothing there but end zone. Just got to make sure you don’t got penalties.”



This is the best one. From a Detroit Columnist:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf..._0-2_afte.html


"Defensively, the Lions had the perfect game plan to stop Vick: Blitz him like crazy and get to him before he could get to Detroit's secondary. The blueprint was flawless, the execution was not.

"Vick made a couple of great plays. We dialed up some blitzes and we had free runners to him and he got away from guys who were (unblocked),'' Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. "Those are matchups we need to win that he won. And he's won a lot of those in the past. I think we had at least two of those drives, maybe three, where we had our hand on him on third down and weren't able to get him on the ground. Hats off to him and we need to do better.''

Vick, who scrambled only seven times for 37 yards, was far more effective scrambling out of the pocket and then throwing. He completed 21 passes in 34 attempts for 284 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions. Vick was sacked six times but avoided at least another half dozen unblocked blitzers.

"If we didn't blitz, then Vick was roaming around and ended up burning us and making plays in our zone coverage stuff. We had some good blitzes dialed up and weren't able to get him on the ground,'' Schwartz said.



Yeah, why don't you explain to both coaches what the definition of "blitz" is...in NFL parlance. :)

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smooth stats on #7 played an hour half,ydsp 459 3td 140rush no int pro b numbers.. jags def backs 629wow loks likeeasy day. da coachar needs the d to focus on... dabears on mnf.. allpro sophm c matt after week4 lions could have 10 sss. 3 4big mac go mtom readybreak check ch woodsson rollupweak .cver2 downs goes culter bears all done. the pack tko br err opening game. lovies packing. #4 bayrat bets means beats highsh second relax have abeer getem next wk, turk knows football . goSO elturko

You're the man, turk.

post of the year, and you're way ahead of crashcar with your grammar

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Lovie s says I only want to beat the packers. Rex gross is undef in lambf... Do you smooth know whats rex qb rating is ? HE blew a 0.8 elturko cio

Mike Vick writing a nice comeback story for himself, 118 passer rating so far today. 3 TD's no Interceptions.

Now he runs one in from 17 looks like the Va Tech Mike Vick, fresh legs.

he looks good rock hard but can you please stay far away from the eagles? and phillies & arizona wildcats fyi

thanks

I been a Zona fan from way back. Miles Simon Mike Bibby days. Phillies cant touch the Yanks. The Eagles cant compete with Green Bay, so its all good my bro.

The Boss just rolled over in his grave...................

thank you.. and stick to AZ basketball.. I really only care about their football team. lack of good defence on their basketball team when I went to school there made me lose respect for them. Lute Olsen was incredibly overrated after 2000

tho of course I'll always pull for their bbal lteam to win

As far as being a fan of sports. I love the Eagles wide outs. Maclin and D Jack. I love those 2, loved them in College. I think there is a ton of talent there, and Im not sold on the Giants or Cowboys, maybe the Vick story runs DEEP.

Rex is ridin' the pine in Wash now, turk.

Cutler's the man in Chi-town.



Alright ... another nice performance by 7 … albeit against a pretty bad team.

Guy's a big-time athlete in his prime with a lot of experience playing the position.

And I think he fully understands the great opportunity he got here … and will take full advantage.

O-line gunna have to continue to improve … and that little back is gunna have to keep getting some yardage on the ground … but with that good young receiving corps … the potential is there for Mike to have a real big year…

Its the NFL. Im sick of the line against a bad team.

Their secondary has been brutal, Rock…

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pycho 5 its 1lineman, 5lbackers, 5db def ply yr woodson . Zambo starts poor tommyharris ... go pack go 3/0. elturko

Those # 7 jerseys sellin' like hot cakes in Philly.


Birds will be pumped for this next one at the Linc.

3-1 after Sunday…

Contend away!

I guess maybe that 6-10 thing might be out the window there sparky?;)

Coach of the year.

Reid has done great things with Vick but Morris in Tampa has to be coach of the year unless they implode the rest of they way.

I disagree. That record is a product of schedule. They haven't beaten a team over .500 yet and play in the weakest division in football.

I think Belichick has done a tremendous job with that team.

Dala is partially correct, but it is a major step in the right direction when you beat the teams you are supposed to beat. The Bucs have zero bad losses and I don't have the time or energy to research it, but I doubt there are many other NFL teams that can say that this year. They have beaten the teams you'd expect them to beat, Cleveland, Carolina (twice), Cincinnati, St. Louis, Arizona and San Francisco. They've lost to the teams that you would expect them to lose to, Pittsburgh, Atlanta and New Orleans. They are 4-1 on the road and were one goal line stand from beating Atlanta on the road to make that 5-0. The next two weeks will tell us a lot about the Bucs.

Bottom line, the team has bought into Raheem and that is big in the NFL.

i think atlanta's coach ought to be mentioned. after the vick and petrino debacles, that team is one of three at 8-2. of course, still games to be played, but they've really turned things around.

I know it sounds like a homer call, but what Mike McArthey has done keeping that team together after losing either 7 or 8 opening day starters for the season plus numerous back ups to injury has been pretty impressive.

So you were picking the Bucs to be 7-3 and a playoff team? Vegas had the Buc over/under for wins this season at 5 1/2 wins. There is a good chance that they win 10 games which comes close to doubling the expected output. Josh Freeman is the QB, not Tom Brady. The schedule has been pretty easy but do you seriously think that the NFC South is the weakest division in football?

The NFC West has been abused by the NFC South all season (9-2, I believe).

Some strength of schedule numbers courtesy of Gary Shelton at the St. Pete Times:

'72 Dolphins were 14-0 in the regular season, 12 of those wins were against teams under .500, 9 of those teams were 5-9 or worse. All we remember is that they were 17-0.

'74 Steelers didn't win a game in the regular season against a team with a winning record, but they won the Super Bowl.....

'84 49ers went 15-1, only 4 of those wins came against teams with winning records.

This year's Jets and Bucs have beaten 7 teams below .500, the Bears, 6, the Falcons and Packers, 5.




You are what your record is, there are only 2 of the 16 games based upon where you finish the previous year. The other 14 games are set years in advance.

NFC West has that locked up. In fact, I think a few divisions are weaker than the NFC South, even with Carolina serving as the anchor.

Tampa +7.5 @ Baltimore

Flacco has no picks at home. Tampa needs to change that if they want to go 8-3.

he's another i think is in the running. or should be.

My brain wasn't working and for a sec I confused them for being in the west.

The bucs have done a good job. This, though, looks to me like one of those teams that pops one year with a weak schedule only to return to being bad the next year. Time will tell.

I realize that brady is a great qb but look what that team has done this year. I think it's an incredible job considering the team totally changed their style of play after the season had already begun and they are winning against the better teams.