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pointman 08-28-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 688958)
You'd think with this bias that Bank Merger would be a little bit better than 8:1. Talk about value.:rolleyes:

I'm shocked that Bulldogger is actually still 4-1. Sure, DM might outrun him, but with that type of speed and this bias, why not take a shot.

tiggerv 08-28-2010 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 688958)
You'd think with this bias that Bank Merger would be a little bit better than 8:1. Talk about value.:rolleyes:

I hope he runs up the track so I can bet him next time. He was my choice last night.

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggerv (Post 688962)
I hope he runs up the track so I can bet him next time. He was my choice last night.

The JOKE that is NYRA.

-BT- 08-28-2010 05:18 PM

nice race riding by martin garcia to just chop d'funnybone off at the knees... headsy ride guy:rolleyes:

-bt-

tiggerv 08-28-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 688964)
The JOKE that is NYRA.

I've never understood why tracks do this. Seems to me that keeping a fair track on a big day that benefits bettors and owners significantly outweighs fast times, biased results and the chance of a track record.

jms62 08-28-2010 05:30 PM

Sar 11

50 Win 1,7
25 Ex Box 1,5

Mike 08-28-2010 05:32 PM

The exacta pays enough for me to box Lttle Wrm and Trappe Shot(backing up my tri box of those two and Admiral Alex)

pointman 08-28-2010 05:33 PM

Considering the bias, how is Miner's Reserve on this board at 37-1?

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-28-2010 05:41 PM

travers tri box 2/4/5/7/8 200 show 7

pointman 08-28-2010 05:43 PM

Sar 12

$10W 1
$10EXB 1,4

why not with this track?

tiggerv 08-28-2010 05:45 PM

$20 W 7

$10 Ex Box 5/7

$1 Tri 5,7/5,7/ALL

$122

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 05:49 PM

SAR R12:

Friend or Foe

Maybe Maragh will gun him out there.:rolleyes:

Port Conway Lane 08-28-2010 05:53 PM

Dead Heat

tiggerv 08-28-2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 688993)
SAR R12:

Friend or Foe

Maybe Maragh will gun him out there.:rolleyes:

You nearly got your wish. I think he was 8 wide around the first turn.

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggerv (Post 688998)
You nearly got your wish. I think he was 8 wide around the first turn.

I didn't bet the race. I had absolutely NO IDEA what to do.

So, they apparently WATERED the **** out the track, given the way Lezcano was full of mud, and it took an all out gun on the 1st turn, an inside run by Castellano, and another poor finish by Lezcano to beat the best horse in the race.

Castellano has learned well following the Vulture Dominguez.

This has to be one the most disappointing major day of racing ever for me. How can anyone bet the Travers with any confidence?

On the other hand, I feel real good for Jimmy Jerkins. QR didn't win the Travers.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-28-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 688985)
travers tri box 2/4/5/7/8 200 show 7

win 487.00 tri

490 show bet

pointman 08-28-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 689004)
I didn't bet the race. I had absolutely NO IDEA what to do.

So, they apparently WATERED the **** out the track, given the way Lezcano was full of mud, and it took an all out gun on the 1st turn, an inside run by Castellano, and another poor finish by Lezcano to beat the best horse in the race.

Castellano has learned well following the Vulture Dominguez.

This has to be one the most disappointing major day of racing ever for me. How can anyone bet the Travers with any confidence?

This day is just killing me. I change my originial play from the 7 on top with the 8, the DD 4/7,8 based on this f*ing track and it comes in and I have nothing. :wf

tiggerv 08-28-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 689004)
I didn't bet the race. I had absolutely NO IDEA what to do.

So, they apparently WATERED the **** out the track, given the way Lezcano was full of mud, and it took an all out gun on the 1st turn, an inside run by Castellano, and another poor finish by Lezcano to beat the best horse in the race.

Castellano has learned well following the Vulture Dominguez.

This has to be one the most disappointing major day of racing ever for me. How can anyone bet the Travers with any confidence?

It certainly looked like a different track but of course NYRA again only cards 1 route on the entire day so who can tell. Figure makers are going to have a tough time with that race.

jms62 08-28-2010 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 688911)
Sar 9

50 Win 3,5
25 box 3/7

1st 3 RAPPORT $6.90 $4.90 $3.40
2nd 2 MY JEN $15.40 $6.90
3rd 7 BEYONDALLBOUNDARYS $3.00
4th 9 KATY NOW

172.5

jms62 08-28-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 688924)
Sar 10

50 Win 1,6
25 Ex box 1,5

1st 1 RIGHTLY SO $11.40 $5.40 $4.10
2nd 2 WARBLING $6.80 $4.60
3rd 3 JESSICA IS BACK $4.40
4th 7 DEVIL BY DESIGN

285.00

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 689009)
This day is just killing me. I change my originial play from the 7 on top with the 8, the DD 4/7,8 based on this f*ing track and it comes in and I have nothing. :wf

Yeah. It's definitely a mind f u ck. I really liked Bank Merger and was going to bet him to win and under DM. Then Johnny V guns DM, given the bias, and BM runs HUGE to get 2nd. So, my result came in but how the **** am I supposed to make that play under the circumstances?

Watching the headon, it appears that Fly Down never changed leads in the stretch. Brutal, brutal trip.

pointman 08-28-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 689018)
Yeah. It's definitely a mind f u ck. I really liked Bank Merger and was going to bet him to win and under DM. Then Johnny V guns DM, given the bias, and BM runs HUGE to get 2nd. So, my result came in but how the **** am I supposed to make that play under the circumstances?

I hear you loud and clear, my original play kills that race, but how can you play anything with confidence on this track right now? Everyone sees the bias. I had no idea they watered down the track before the race and how can you predict what these jockeys are going to do now they are all aware of the bias? You can't get any feel on positioning and it is a total f*n crapshoot at this point. It really sucks that this day was screwed this way.

To make matters worse, with the fiance away, now I am going to play some Del Mar which is a track that I have no feeling whatsoever for. I probably should start working on fantasy football.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-28-2010 06:21 PM

200 plc show 8 john morrison is deadly..

5 ext tri/ box 2/4/8/7

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 06:22 PM

SAR R13:

#4, Pea Stone, win

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 06:28 PM

Yeah

Why wouldn't I get run down last jump on the 10:1 shot? :rolleyes:

pointman 08-28-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 689036)
Yeah

Why wouldn't I get run down last jump on the 10:1 shot? :rolleyes:

Tough beat, TFM, the 4 ran big.

declansharbor 08-28-2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 689036)
Yeah

Why wouldn't I get run down last jump on the 10:1 shot? :rolleyes:

Had both horses in a $2 P3. Needless to say, I'm none too happy either.

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 06:35 PM

CRC R13:

#6, Nofashionsense, win

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 689039)
CRC R13:

#6, Nofashionsense, win

Now let me get this straight with this one. They PUT BLINKERS ON because they wanted her to be outrun 15 lengths or so early @ 30:1, and come flying too late for 3rd? :rolleyes:

ha ha ha

A better idea would be to actually put the blinkers on in the morning before doing so in the afternoon.

This one had real potential.

Paid $12 to show.

jms62 08-28-2010 07:35 PM

Dmr 8


50 Win 3,4
25 ex Box 3,4

Coach Pants 08-28-2010 07:45 PM

Del Mar 8
$5 ex 1,4/1,3,4,7
$2 tri 1,4/1,3,4,7/1,3,4,6,7

$66

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 07:46 PM

DMR R8:

If The Usual Q T doesn't go, the 4 should have a good shot to wire. But 7:1 is a joke.

ateamstupid 08-28-2010 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 688843)
That's a damn impressive firster.

Out to a BBQ, enjoy the rest of the day fellas!

Saratoga Race 6
$1 PK3 5,8 / 5,8,9,10 / 1,3,4
Saratoga Race 9
$1 PK4 3,7,9 / 1,2,3,4,5 / 4 / 7,8,9,11
$84 total
GL

$422.50

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 08:10 PM

DMR R9:

exacta: 1 / 8

pointman 08-28-2010 08:14 PM

Nice job, Joey. :$:

Del Mar 9

$10W 9
$5DD 9/6,10

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-28-2010 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 689064)
$422.50

nice job joey:tro::$:

Dahoss 08-28-2010 08:26 PM

Some effort from Rosario there. :rolleyes:

Coach Pants 08-28-2010 08:51 PM

Del Mar 10
$5 double 6,7/2,6,12
$15 wp 7

the_fat_man 08-28-2010 08:57 PM

El Brujo gets an easy lead over Smiling Tiger. That makes sense. :rolleyes:

Coach Pants 08-28-2010 08:59 PM

I give up.

You don't have to go 5 wide to close.

Or am I the only person watching races who thinks that?


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