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The Indomitable DrugS 08-26-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 687954)
So, he's athletic, swift and smart?

More like Jewish and loaded with drugs.

Indian Charlie 08-26-2010 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 687955)
More like Jewish and loaded with drugs.

Isn't that being redundant?

Indian Charlie 08-26-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 687953)
Yeah - if the Pletcher IC colt wins the 6th race - we could probably just concede next years triple crown to him. He's named after FreddyMo.

Repole stable.


Aren't they the ones that had one recently named "Always wrong Joey" or something like that?

Are they DT'ers?

iamthelurker 08-26-2010 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 687944)
I want to use Fly Down and Afleet Express in multis and call it a day, but I do not trust Lezcano.

+1 for not trusting Lezcano

clyde 08-26-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 687707)
Does the Travers follow suit with nearly every other 3-year-old race this year and produce a different winner? It's been a crazy year for the crop.

First Dude... I'm wondering if he has one more shot in him... he's the last horse who came close to beating Lookin at Lucky.

We expect this from you.

Dahoss 08-26-2010 09:45 PM

I'm expecting a much better effort from Malibu Cougar in the 2nd. If you watch the head on of her last, she is forced to take up right as she is beginning to hit her best stride. Have to think she got a lot out of the debut.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 688252)
I'm expecting a much better effort from Malibu Cougar in the 2nd. If you watch the head on of her last, she is forced to take up right as she is beginning to hit her best stride. Have to think she got a lot out of the debut.

I think there is a standout in there.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 09:52 PM

Before you tell me Im being silly because of the GOAT...
Take this info...
The 2 horses pressing her in the maiden race finished last and second to last. The day was huge AGAINST SPEED. This gal ran her EYEBALLS OUT. Im going through the charts of the day now, only 1 wire to wire winner. The early call leader finished 3rd twice... 2 races were total meltdowns even with slow paces.

Sightseek 08-26-2010 10:00 PM

I don't think I could take a stand on one horse in that race -- a few look interesting to me.

Dahoss 08-26-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 688256)
Before you tell me Im being silly because of the GOAT...
Take this info...
The 2 horses pressing her in the maiden race finished last and second to last. The day was huge AGAINST SPEED. This gal ran her EYEBALLS OUT. Im going through the charts of the day now, only 1 wire to wire winner. The early call leader finished 3rd twice... 2 races were total meltdowns even with slow paces.

Of course she'll be tough, but at 8/5 or less, I'll try and beat her.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 688259)
Of course she'll be tough, but at 8/5 or less, I'll try and beat her.

I might just single her and hope she gets home. 3-5 all look like spreads to me.

Dahoss 08-26-2010 10:23 PM

The 4th and 5th make it impossible for me to go near the pick 4. I'm a little interested in Johnny Two By Four in the 3rd, although that race is another head scratcher.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 688271)
The 4th and 5th make it impossible for me to go near the pick 4. I'm a little interested in Johnny Two By Four in the 3rd, although that race is another head scratcher.

I want the Mott to be a stud.

freddymo 08-27-2010 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 688252)
I'm expecting a much better effort from Malibu Cougar in the 2nd. If you watch the head on of her last, she is forced to take up right as she is beginning to hit her best stride. Have to think she got a lot out of the debut.

I thought the same.. He should win or at least make an excellent account of himelf.. I thought Nolansgrant kitten in the 4th had a horrendous (trip) in his debut as well. How about Barrel of Love? The rain hopefully adjusted some of the speed bias on the turf and he looks OK, Not for Love 3 year old could be on the improve with 2 turns and fair turf course.. I am not thrilled with taking the short price horses in the 4th.. I will use the Dos Hombres as well he has a bit of a look..

Sightseek 08-27-2010 11:44 AM

A very enjoyable article:

http://www.drf.com/news/fantastic-fo...nnings-travers

clyde 08-27-2010 01:17 PM

^^^^ Was sent article by Ralph Geeker. Only looks at ads in Vanity Fair.

NTamm1215 08-27-2010 01:19 PM

^^^^^ Keeps making us wait for his Travers analysis even after nailing the winner of the Alabammy last week.

clyde 08-27-2010 01:29 PM

^^^^ Snarf!! ...I mean----anxious because has nearing deadline for Traverse pick.

AlreadyHome 08-27-2010 05:21 PM

TS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 687801)
Trappe Shot

NO DOUT.,, AN THE WINNER IS TRAPPE SHOT :tro::$:

FLY DOWN FOR 2ND.:$:

clyde 08-27-2010 05:47 PM

ET..this is 4 u.


And I don't need no stinking card carriers.




THE TRAVERSE




1 Miner's Reserve



Will reach down deep for something extry in the stretch....and find a hanger.



..uh,no...



crinkle...


trash can






2 Trappe' Shote'


Al false' fave'.





crinkle...


trash can






3 Captain Quigg



Paranoia strikes....gets a shot of Demerol.




..not gunna duh it..








whiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!










5 A Little Warm


A little stupid as well.


Too dumb to traverse the Traverse.






crinkle...


trash can







6 Ice Box

























=:>














7 Meet ...a Mess


awful







crinkle...


trash can












8 Fly Down



Needs ZipLock.



no


crinkle...


trash can









9 Friend Or Foe


If he doesn't know, how the fucl< should we?




4 -get it





crink-el...


trash can














10 Afleet Again



again !!????





blech





crinkle...


trash can








11 Super Saver


Frequent dyers do not win the Traverse.







nyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooow!!!!










thud











IceBox brings home the Sorbet.

Scav 08-27-2010 08:42 PM

^^^:D

NTamm1215 08-27-2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 688552)
ET..this is 4 u.


And I don't need no stinking card carriers.




THE TRAVERSE




1 Miner's Reserve



Will reach down deep for something extry in the stretch....and find a hanger.



..uh,no...



crinkle...


trash can






2 Trappe' Shote'


Al false' fave'.





crinkle...


trash can






3 Captain Quigg



Paranoia strikes....gets a shot of Demerol.




..not gunna duh it..








whiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!










5 A Little Warm


A little stupid as well.


Too dumb to traverse the Traverse.






crinkle...


trash can







6 Ice Box

























=:>














7 Meet ...a Mess


awful







crinkle...


trash can












8 Fly Down



Needs ZipLock.



no


crinkle...


trash can









9 Friend Or Foe


If he doesn't know, how the fucl< should we?




4 -get it





crink-el...


trash can














10 Afleet Again



again !!????





blech





crinkle...


trash can








11 Super Saver


Frequent dyers do not win the Traverse.







nyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooow!!!!










thud











IceBox brings home the Sorbet.

:) 'Zactly what I was looking for, kind sir.

ET

Cajungator26 08-27-2010 09:27 PM

Friend or Foe for me ... classy hoss who should be good odds and is bred for 10 panels. I don't think we'll see a cold closer win this race tomorrow ... I like Ice Box as much as anyone else, but don't care for the lack of a lead change every time he's close in the stretch.

Good racing luck to everyone! :D

GPK 08-27-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26 (Post 688633)
Friend or Foe for me ... classy hoss who should be good odds and is bred for 10 panels. I don't think we'll see a cold closer win this race tomorrow ... I like Ice Box as much as anyone else, but don't care for the lack of a lead change every time he's close in the stretch.

Good racing luck to everyone! :D

:rolleyes:

clyde 08-27-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 688621)
:) 'Zactly what I was looking for, kind sir.

ET



Very good deal.


Claim it as your own. Least I can do.

clyde 08-27-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26 (Post 688633)
Friend or Foe for me ... classy hoss who should be good odds and is bred for 10 panels. I don't think we'll see a cold closer win this race tomorrow ... I like Ice Box as much as anyone else, but don't care for the lack of a lead change every time he's close in the stretch.

Good racing luck to everyone! :D


Steven H. Crist!

Sightseek 08-27-2010 09:56 PM

This is "pretty horsie" but Miss Keller sleeps with a stuffed animal:

http://todmarks.photoshelter.com/gal...000wiTAT8P1mIo

Cajungator26 08-27-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 688651)
This is "pretty horsie" but Miss Keller sleeps with a stuffed animal:

http://todmarks.photoshelter.com/gal...000wiTAT8P1mIo

Love that! How cute ... :)

Cajungator26 08-27-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 688638)
:rolleyes:

:tro:

skippy3481 08-27-2010 10:17 PM

I think english channel wins the travers after all, he was the greatest horse ever...:)

Arletta 08-27-2010 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 688651)
This is "pretty horsie" but Miss Keller sleeps with a stuffed animal:

http://todmarks.photoshelter.com/gal...000wiTAT8P1mIo

OMG! that is just the most adorable damn thing! I am for sure picking her tomorrow :)

(Plus I still sleep with one :o)

King Glorious 08-27-2010 11:42 PM

Going with First Dude to wire them.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-28-2010 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 687900)
Katy Now borders on a single for me.

Something tiring about her action. See how she doesn't usually come back to race very quickly? She is either real exhausted, or sore from hitting the dirt a lil too hard. I think she needs that lesser class of fillies. I know she can do that ugly stuff, and beat lesser. That one paced stuff isn't gunna be enough to beat these. Rapport, and Beyondallboundarys are solid. There are some others that can upset on their best day. I know JV is a great jock, and the trainer packs it full of powder. Even so, If Katy fires her best, somebody will still get by her (late.) It's really tough to hold on to win graded races when you've got to use that action. Not sure what strategy i'll use yet.

If single = Rapport

If take 2= Rapport n' Beyond all

If deep=Rapport, Beyond all, K Kate, W Case, T Beauty

Was a pathetic ride by Robby on Rapport. M Garcia is a better rider in every way, and especially better on managing speed horses. I don't think they can hook up with her. He will just let her run a little more. It is Saratoga. So, I guess anybody can tire, but I wouldn't count on it. You just can't let a horse run a 21'1 first quarter at Calder. Every fraction was faster than the older girls ran that day. It shouldn't surprise anybody that she'd not be able to get the last quarter.

pucknut 08-28-2010 07:33 AM

when in doubt use class
super saver towers overs this mediocre crop of 3yo's in terms of class
you've even got optional claimers in this race
few graded stakes winners and the rest haven't won or are trying to break through late
when are you ever going to get a derby winner as the third or fourth choice in a travers
when do you see pletcher in a grade 1 as a dog
11/6,4/all
love super saver in this spot
has a race over
the haskell wasn't as bad as it looked and this horse is not in the same sentence as the travers with any of the public handicappers

super sleeper

Dahoss 08-28-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pucknut (Post 688721)
super saver towers overs this mediocre crop of 3yo's in terms of class

He does?

ateamstupid 08-28-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 688730)
He does?

I don't agree with his reasoning, but I do like Super Saver a bit today. I think his Haskell was better than it looked, he'll sit a decent trip in behind the speed and he's one of the few proven at the distance. He's good value at ~6-1 IMO.

Dahoss 08-28-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 688734)
I don't agree with his reasoning, but I do like Super Saver a bit today. I think his Haskell was better than it looked, he'll sit a decent trip in behind the speed and he's one of the few proven at the distance. He's good value at ~6-1 IMO.

Yeah if you draw a line through the Preakness he looks a lot better. I just can't get that perfect trip in the Derby out of my mind. It should be interesting to see what Borel does out of the gate.

alysheba4 08-28-2010 10:09 AM

ice box and fly down exacta box.

Sightseek 08-28-2010 10:41 AM

Yeesh, I can't believe Cocalero picked himself back up after not just kissing the dirt once at the break, but twice.

ateamstupid 08-28-2010 10:47 AM

I'm amazed Garcia was able to stay on the horse.


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