I never see people's avatars....I blocked them when I joined.

OK, well its a great pic of you.
I think they got your good side.

You believed him?

He has a reputation in the Saratoga/Ballston Spa area as being an honest guy.

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You coming this weekend?
Who do you like?

Yeah I'm leaving on Friday.

I like Trappe Shot but it looks like McPalsy doesn't have the good stuff this meet.

I actually really don't see people's avatars. It's one of the first things I learned to block when I started going to message boards.

Later I started blocking posters.

I would not argue with anyone saying Trappe Shot is the most talented horse in here.

In this case, I feel even more special that Im not blocked.

I stand corrected.

You'd think it would be the other way around though.

I think you'd appreciate my new avatar, btw.

It's a picture of Archie Bunker, and I'm using it to pay homage to TFM.

I'm using two horses. The other is Ice Box. Lezcano off is H-U-G-E

What do you base that on?

C'mon coach you know how this story ends

The lack of any brilliance. His huge Belmont win crushing a horse who has come back to run 2 triple digit beyers. His Monmouth races were strong losing to only the divisions leader while defeating at least 4 of these already. I'd say most raw talent is him or Afleet Express.

Yeah changing my mind and throwing him out and watching Leparoux move him wide down the stretch to a victory?

The Belmont there was no excuse. Last race it's well documented that Lezcano has been on another planet. Probably one of those new planets NASA is going to announce tomorrow. So throwing the last out and going back to Fla. Derby and Ky Derby if there is a slight improvement he has as good a shot as any.

And the price should be good.

Admiral Alex, I salute you .

Coach, as much as I have been against Ice Box, he is the one Im tossing Im most worried about. The pace could be swift and he might be running late.

He got a better trip last out than those also coming out of that race. Doutful he finishes 2nd if Bravo doesn't move prematurely on AA, leading to the collapse of the race. Now he's going 10F and will surely be forced to run at a critical point of the race, rather than last moving the field. No thanks.

He looks as if he might be one of those off-the-pace horses whose performance is relatively easy to predict. If you look at his last four races, they went fast early in the first two and he won one and finished a strong second in the other. The next two they didn't go fast early and he didn't do anything. That's obviously not surprising, given his running style, but he looks like he might be even more one-dimensional than many. Given the probable pace scenario here if there aren't any scratches, and a Zito off-the-pace exacta looks very possible to me.

Not what I meant. The story ends with Lezcano winning the Travers.

He could be on Pegasus and f.uck it up. He's that bad.

It is in the stars.

Not that I think Admiral Alex is a probable winner of the Travers, but I don't recall in recent times a horse winning his debut in a two-turn dirt race and earning a higher figure than his 87. Am I forgetting someone?

Czaravich ?

Which signifies very little. Most horses don't run two turns on dirt to start their career therefore we'll never know....Affirmatif opened with a two turn 100 on the grass last spring.

Fly Down started of as one of my mains, I just dont trust Lezcano and have not decided yet what to do with him.

I was aware of Affirmatif, and I'm also aware that it's not common for a horse to debut going two turns on dirt; that's why I posed the question that I did. Take any answer for what you think it's worth.

Tapit ran a 90 Beyer when he won his debut at Delaware going two turns on dirt as a 2yo.

Tale of the Cat won his debut by double digits with a 95 going 1 mile and 70 yards at MTH at age 3. Ran in the Haskell two starts later.

To me the pace sets up alot better for Afleet Express more than it does Ice Box. Its gonna be a Belmont type pace as well as distance and we saw who finished 1/2/3 in that

Thanks for both. That's a pair of nice horses,

That was a great crop.

There is a pretty big difference between a 10f race and a 12f race.