Going 9f? There's no way you're catching Ghostzapper of Formal Gold on dirt.

You'd pretty much have to have no clue if you think GZ would finish in the money against that field.

Do people really believe he'd get the lead???

No, but I don't think he would need it. Remember the race he ran in the Vosburgh?

In the context of this discussion, I would rather see the horses tested at 10 furlongs rather than 9, setting a parameter at 9 furlongs would be the equivalent of when boxing went to 12 rounds from 15. Further to this why not have these same horses race against each other 9 times within a 12 month period allowing a reasonable 5-6 weeks between races. Having a mythical one race match based on a horse's best performance is like having to beat the 2008 18-0 N.E England Pats once and saying they were a better team.

I think the condition should be changed to 5.5f on dirt.

Then it becomes a 2 horse race.

Based on 2.25 wins per year, I would vote for Ghostzapper.

Dougs post was just a bunch of red X's for me.. but those are some nice animals. I'd give my tri if I knew which horses were in the field!

Formal Gold was an absolute monster.

Just seeing your reply makes it laughable that anyone could consider Zenyatta being in the top 4

The 4 horses you mentioned would have crushed Zenyatta, Rachel, Eskendera, and basically anything we've seen the past couple years

:zz::zz::zz:

really??????

Wouldn't Candy Ride, Gentleman, and Zenyatta drop dead from flying that many times over the Rockies?

another insanely idiotic comment.

They dont make planes that fly that far... duh.

What's confusing you Antitrust? The post was based on looking at his past p's but his last race was missing, I don't know if you buy stocks, but when you look at income statements you want the whole picture and not just the best performing year.

Um, I think Doug was trying to pit the horses against each other at their peak.

NT

CSC doesn't allow that in hypothetical races. He also doesn't allow 9f contests.

because it was a ridiculous post CSC, you should be able to realize that!

Really Nick, we know the reason why the list was posted. I have a trained monkey on my shoulder telling me who ran the best beyer, there is no need to analyze it any further.

Just for you my friend CSC,

Who wins at 10 furlongs on their worst day?

Ooooh. :) Okie doke. I was thinking we all suddenly forgot to add and subtract. Wouldn't be the first time. Being absorbed with things all summer, I keep forgetting what day of the week it is.

I presume your question is a serious one, on this list I would go with Cigar. His losing Classic was far better than Skip Away's if you want to use these 2 as examples. But then again if this question is a trap horses like Ghostzapper and Candy Ride raced so sporadically they were not often in positions to run a bad race. Ghostzapper won 9 races in 4 years of racing, it's hard to have a bad day when you race this infrequently. Comments?

Planes??? Don't you know Zenyatta sprouted wings last November and does her own flying. That's why it knocks her out for a couple of days.

what about a Cigar on the turf? wouldnt that really be his worst race?


He could finish last!

Pretty sure Skip Away had some clunkers early on in his 3yo season. I do not believe he finished well in the Derby.


Bernardini's worst race might win it.. though I do not know if he's on the list because I cant see the list.

I assumed we were talking about dirt, but yes Cigar was very mediocre on turf, just because I like you, if you haven't seen it there is a feature video on Bloodhorse on Cigar last I checked, it chronicles his racing career and life after racing. Bailey, Mott, and M Paulson all look back. I think you would enjoy it.

thats cool.. I'll check it out.

Started following racing in 96 so Cigar was the first "superstar" in my racing career.

Here it is
 

Candy Ride shipped to California from Argentina.

Gentlemen as well, and he won the Pimlico Special.

As for Z, more likely the connections would drop dead.

Point Given ....Invasor ...Holy Bull and Ghost Zapper....Tri Box

Could we get a ML on this race before making our choices? I would LOVE an educated opinion on the odds on this one.

The fastest closer and horse for course in the race. Left Bank and/or Formal Gold fill out the tri.

Well, considering we're talking about a 9f race and not a 10f one, I wouldn't bet against Formal Gold. He would be very difficult to catch going 9f based on his 1997 season.

Julio Pezua would clear and get to the rail on Caller One despite starting from the 25 hole with a short run into the 1st turn.

Rachel Alexandra would figure to get caught 17 wide the entire way around the first turn.