WOW life and death to beat that nag???

Desperate? Come on

HEY! Rinterval was second to Lush Lashes in 2007 and she's GRADE I PLACED now omgomgomgomg.

Come on yourself.

That race hands down had to of been the worst G1 field in the history of horse racing. Everyone involved in putting that race together and being apart of it should hang their heads in shame. That was NOT horse racing. It was a sham and Zenyatta was almost embarrassed.

Sheza a teasing bitch. Ain't it obvious? She loves the show.

It's Polytrack... the most perverted of all the brands of synthetic.

On Cushion or Pro-Ride she beats the piss out of Rinterval and Anabaa's Creation by 4 or more very convincing lengths, instead of winning in a dog fight.

She'd a fair bit tucked up her sleeve I thought. It was a shocking field but surely most people realise that some horses just put in the bare minimum to win a race.. Or am I just caught up in Zenyatta mania??

Just heard the Beyer for that race. 78

There's a whole lot of almost beating her.They haven't actually done it. If she wins in a romp, the maggots won't come watch her show next time.

But those glorified claiming horses she races against shouldn't be sniffing her a$$, right?? They shouldn't be almost beating her if shes as great as you all say she is.

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Again, the usual post race comments have become quite tiresome. She probably has two races left to run in her career (both on dirt?). Just wondering what horses are you predicting to beat her.

You've never been around a brutal Narcissist. All you people are pssd about her, but you tune in to get your punishment. You all think (for at least a couple seconds each race) that you might have her beat. Then she punishes you yet again. Most of ya been trying to get her beat for what? 10 races? She punishes you, but also wants to keep giving you hope. That way, she knows you'll come back for another beating. You have a huge shot at beating her with BLAME, but don't bet money that you need.

Come now Scuds you mean to tell me this hasn't been fun for you, as we watch Rail Trip, Quality Road, and Rachel Alex all come crashing down to earth. Here comes Blame now as the logical contender. LOL

ha ha ha ha

yeah, you understand race dynamics.:rolleyes:

I predicted a 89 beyer and a measured length win on Wednesday. Off by half a length...Damn Smith finish stronger.

Even if the race dynamics don't suit her - she just beat a horse who's lost 20 out of her last 21 races by about a neck.

What is so silly is that many of you keep making the same silly arguments that you were making last year. You all thought that she wasn't anything special because she wasn't beating much and she wasn't winning by big margins. You all thought she had little or no chance in the BC Classic.

After she stepped up and won the BC Classic, I would have thought that that would be enough for you to realize that you were wrong and that her winning margins and her level of competition are pretty much meaningless. Her win in the BC Classic proved that there's more in the tank than she's showing. And yet here you go again making this same argument that she must not be that good because she's beating mediocre competition by small margins. I just don't get it. The BC Classic proved that that argument is wrong and yet you guys still make that same argument.

I'm not saying that she's the greatest horse ever. I'm simply saying that you can't measure her based on these races because she is clearly capable of doing more as she proved in the BC Classic.

The Streak is drivin' the haters crazy. :D

I gave her a big chance to win the BC Classic last year. Who was more deserving of favortisim than her in that spot?

It was a terrible edition of the BC Classic .. Tiago had the best finish of any American in the '08 Classic.

Her competiton and margins of victory are only being so wholeheartedly mocked because of the fact that people are wildly overrating her - run a poll on who the greatest horse of all time, male or female is ... Secretariat or Spectacular Bid have NO chance with Zenyatta.

Holy crap, how do you people still not understand this?

We don't think she sucks. We think she's awesome, which is what makes her campaign even more disappointing and infuriating. She's not being allowed to prove herself and her greatness. One challenging race a year isn't acceptable for a supposed all-time great. We get sick of hearing about her incredible accomplishments when she's not doing anything historically significant except extending a winning streak that no one with a brain cares about. If she's capable of more, they should show it. She's going to go down in the history books as the biggest 'what if' horse whose career wasn't ended early.

This straw man argument about how anyone who isn't satisfied with these monotonous life-and-death victories over claimers automatically must think she's awful, it has to go. She's a beast, and she deserves applause. But stop telling me how legendary she is, when she's never allowed to prove it against top competition.

I don't have PP's,is that true?

That is true. It is driving them crazy.

Some of what they are saying is true. She has faced some pretty weak fields in many of her races. But she also stepped up and beat the boys in the BC Classic. Was that BC Classic a really strong field? No, I wouldn't say so but it was a good enough field. You have to be a pretty darn good mare to step up and win that race.

If there is more in her tank why not use it? There is no shame in losing a race once in a while FFS! If she's really the best then run against the best and there would be no argument.Yeesh! One great race out of 17, cool!, and I'm far from a hater but get real. maggots, yea right. I love the horse but you are all nuts.

The PP's of the 2nd place finisher are in the 'Presque Isle is rocking' thread.

I'm not putting you in the category of the people who don't think she's great. You have been clear that you think she's great and you would like to see her in tougher races. I can see your point. I'm not arguing your point. I'm arguing with the people that are saying she must not be that good because she's beating mediocre horses by small margins.

One more race in So Cal before the BC SO? :D

And I think that there are far fewer of those people than you are insinuating. Most people on here, I'd say, are in my camp.

Ok, She's clearly better than Secreatariat and Spectacular Bid? Is that better, or do I have to go way further and say that Pepper's Pride is also better than those two?

The truth is we will never know how good she is. I think we have to come to grips with that. As a board family

She apparently did not ship great when she went to Oaklawn this year. The trip knocked her out and she lost weight. Knowing that, why would they want to ship her again this year before they ship her to Kentucky in November for the BC Classic? Why would they want to knock her out before the big race?

All horses are different. Some horses handle shipping really well and others don't. Going into this year, I think they were planning on shipping quite a bit this year. But since she didn't handle it particulary well, they're not going to do it again before the BC Classic. I guess there is a small chance that they will ship her for her final prep but I would say the odds are against it.

Who are you argung with? I didn't hear anyone say that she is better than Secretariat or Spectacular Bid.

The Pepper's Pride argument is a joke. How can you compare a mare that's won 16 graded stakes races in a row including the BC Classic to a mare that was runing against New Mexico breds? It's absurd.

Was this race shown live on the major networks or ESPN?

No?

I wonder why. Maybe it's because true sports fans don't fall for exhibitions for filthy rich cowards to show off their "SUPER HORSE." They'd rather watch poker or bowling. At least in those sports you don't see the stars ducking each other on a regular basis.

It was fitting SHEriffs was wearing pink today.

Now continue fawning over this horse who barely beat nothing.

see? now you know how we feel. It's that simple.

Yeah, what he said. It's impossible to question what is a history of races against lesser competition without some of these jacks thinking you believe she sucks and taking offense to it. Clearly this is not the case. However, let's not confuse the ridiculous exhibitions vs allowance horses as legend making efforts. Is anyone seriously more impressed today by Zenyatta than Blame? No contest.

We will see how she runs in the BC Classic this year. That should give people a better idea.

Whats the most interesting thing about her PP's, other than being unbeaten, is that the pace calls of her races. I would imagine without looking 15 of the 18 have had below par pace calls, to be a closer into that dynamic is pretty amazing.

The poly crap junk just makes winning that much more of a crap shoot, what did drugs say the routing favorites have done on it?

The Shirreffs 3 calls a day to TVG lately about whether he will run or not is grotesque. I hope he never wins another race.

agreed but I think she will run in the Distaff

Why would you blame him? You should blame TVG. They are the ones that keep hounding him every day. It's not his fault.